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Old 11-05-2015, 02:04 AM   #1
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The 2016 Toyota Tacoma has a tow rating of 6500 pounds. Is this okay for the escape 5ta or do I need to look at the f150 v6 Eco boost?
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Old 11-05-2015, 05:09 AM   #2
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The 2016 Toyota Tacoma has a tow rating of 6500 pounds. Is this okay for the escape 5ta or do I need to look at the f150 v6 Eco boost?
Truthfully, that would depend if when towing at 60 miles per hour (@ 100 kph) if you punch the gas pedal, do you want to be pinned back into your seat and accelerate to 80 mph (@ 120 kph ) in a couple of heartbeats. The 3.5 EcoBoost will do that. Don't think the Taco will, but several 5.0 owners tow with Nissan Frontiers, which have a comparable towing capacity if memory serves me correctly.
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I think it's more determined by the trucks payload, a quick search shows 1120 thru 1620 lbs. You'll need at least 700-800 for the trailer, another 200 for the hitch depending which hitch you get, and the weight of the occupants and trucks cargo. In our case we'd need 1400-1500 lbs.
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I think it's more determined by the trucks payload, a quick search shows 1120 thru 1620 lbs. You'll need at least 700-800 for the trailer, another 200 for the hitch depending which hitch you get, and the weight of the occupants and trucks cargo. In our case we'd need 1400-1500 lbs.
I don't think payload is an issue. The 2016 Tacoma, set up for towing, has a payload capacity of 1,620 lbs. At least two members of this forum are towing 5.0TAs with Nissan Frontiers, comparable to the Tacoma, with no problems. I'm not certain, but are any of the truck manufacturers even building trucks any smaller than the current Tacoma/Frontier? I guess what I mean I'm not sure there is a truck currently produced that cannot handle the 5.0TA unless you are carting more weight than most of us.
I'm told by one that he gets 14+ mpg with the Nissan "on the flats." With the 3.5 EcoBoost, I was getting 14 mpg on the flats. Time will tell what the 2.7 EcoBoost I just purchased will get. Power wise, the 3.5 was overkill for the TA.
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Thanks for the quick response and helpful comments. Payload appears to be the tricky issue not towing capacity. Comparable to Nissan Frontier in the 1130 range for most models of the taco. With two adults, a dog and a few personal effects am I pushing it? Any frontier owners who could weigh in? Thanks everyone.
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Thanks for the quick response and helpful comments. Payload appears to be the tricky issue not towing capacity. Comparable to Nissan Frontier in the 1130 range for most models of the taco. With two adults, a dog and a few personal effects am I pushing it? Any frontier owners who could weigh in? Thanks everyone.
Hi: Mark James... We tow a 2014 5.0TA with a 2010 Nissan Fronty 4X4 long bed. This is the same truck we towed our '07 5.0 with. Payload allows for a driver and tank of gas so with my wife and the hitch+ pin weight we are at or slightly below the load limit. The tow cap is 6100#'s so we're 2/3rds of that. With 265hp and 281#ft. of torque there's plenty of giddyap!!! Alf
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I don't think payload is an issue. The 2016 Tacoma, set up for towing, has a payload capacity of 1,620 lbs. At least two members of this forum are towing 5.0TAs with Nissan Frontiers, comparable to the Tacoma, with no problems. I'm not certain, but are any of the truck manufacturers even building trucks any smaller than the current Tacoma/Frontier? I guess what I mean I'm not sure there is a truck currently produced that cannot handle the 5.0TA unless you are carting more weight than most of us.
I'm told by one that he gets 14+ mpg with the Nissan "on the flats." With the 3.5 EcoBoost, I was getting 14 mpg on the flats. Time will tell what the 2.7 EcoBoost I just purchased will get. Power wise, the 3.5 was overkill for the TA.
My 2014 Ram 1500 Quad Cab has a payload capacity of 1430 lbs . With the pin weight of a 5.0 TA being 700 to 900 lbs + a hitch weight of 150 lbs , + the weight of two passengers , my truck is near it's payload limit. That leaves little weight capacity for cargo or options.
Plus many 1/2 ton trucks are not listed by the manufacturer for 5th wheel towing. ( Ram is not rated for 5th wheel towing)
I for one choose not to run my vehicle at 100% or over its stated limits but others see this as a non issue
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Thanks for the quick response and helpful comments. Payload appears to be the tricky issue not towing capacity. Comparable to Nissan Frontier in the 1130 range for most models of the taco. With two adults, a dog and a few personal effects am I pushing it? Any frontier owners who could weigh in? Thanks everyone.
Hi Mark,

We tow a 5.0TA with a 2007 Nissan Frontier SE, 2WD, 6' bed, and have had no problems. We try to stay under 60MPH and get around 17MPG. We're more comfortable towing at the lower speed. We've driven the hills in VA and PA, along I81 and just got back to MA from 5-weeks in Newfoundland, which has some hills. We don't often pass when climbing, but we don't block traffic either.

We try to not load heavier stuff in front of the 5.0 wheels and don't carry a lot of weight in the truck bed. The toughest thing for us was finding someone willing to install 5th wheel hitch in the Nissan, since no hitch manufacturers list components for them. We finally got a dealer to call the people who install the hitches for Escapes customers in BC. We bought our 5.0TA slightly used in FL.

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It depends what configuration of tacoma you have and how it is set up. i had a double cab, 4 wheel drive, 2014 tacoma w/tow package. rated to tow 6500 lbs. but my payload was only rated at 1050 lbs. to this truck i added step rails, and cap. with the weight of the cap, rails, myself and wife, two dogs( 24 lbs combined) figured 50 lbs for incidentals in the cab that you use when traveling two recumbent trikes in the truck, and i figured 350 lbs tongue wt. for the 19 we had on order, i was with in 20 pounds of maximum. that was not acceptable to me. So i traded up to a Tundra 4 wheel, double cab, rails and cap, and picked up 400lbs on the payload. I think you will find that the 1600 lb. payload will be on the Regular cab 2 wheel drive Tacoma with the 5 ft bed. As it gets longer and you add more options, the payload goes down. There will be a number on the door sticker that you can match up in the Manual, under payload, that will tell you exactly what it is. Don't rely on the salesman, because they will tell anything they think you want to hear to make the sale. And don't call Toyota Customer service, they know less than the sales people. Ask me how i know. Any ways the Wife SAID, Honeyyy.. seeings how we got that bigger truck..... I think I want the 21.... Honey... big smile, eyes bat, bat, bat... Thank You Tammy for letting us trade up. We pick it up next October 17th. 2016.
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Old 11-06-2015, 12:02 AM   #10
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Thanks to you all for the excellent albeit divergent comments. Test drove the Tacoma today( I loved it) and ended up at the local hitch installer. He did not seem too concerned about weight and payload but said the Taco was a non starter for a 5th wheel hitch as the bed was made of a poly carbonate instead of steel. The Frontier is apparently made of steel so it's okay. The local Toyota dealer also had concerns about all aspects of the 5th wheel/ Tacoma relationship. I give up. Taking a serious look at the Tundra now. Thanks for your help guys.
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