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Old 08-31-2014, 06:42 PM   #31
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Service will also cost more.
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Old 08-31-2014, 07:03 PM   #32
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Old 08-31-2014, 08:39 PM   #33
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I can't believe how much power this truck has over my 2000 Ford F-150 with the Triton V-8. A couple of weeks ago, in rush hour traffic, I had to punch it to get out of situation and dang near lost it. YEOW!
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That's when it's nice to have 4WD.
I'm not sure that would help at all. Unlike typical SUVs, which have 4WD systems that work full-time, the pickups typically have part-time 4WD that doesn't do anything at all unless you shift it into 4WD... which you can't do on dry pavement with a part-time system.

As Ford says in the F-150 owner's manual:
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Do not use 4X4 mode on dry, hard surfaced roads. Doing so will produce excessive noise, increase tire wear and may damage drive components. 4X4 mode is only intended for consistently slippery or loose surfaces.
If you get an Expedition - which has the same engine, transmission, forward frame and suspension, and forward bodywork - and if you choose 4WD you get Ford's "Control TracŪ 4-Wheel-Drive System", which actually does work full time (if that mode is selected); that's not available in a normal F-150.

I was riding with a business associate in his Escalade and asked why he had 4WD... in Houston. He said he couldn't buy the vehicle without 4WD, and had only engaged it once, just to see if the button worked. This is the kind of ridiculous waste that we have reached.

Also, an F-150 should have traction control, so it won't spin the rear wheels and lose control. More driven wheels could just mean even more acceleration, compromising front traction, and less ability to control the vehicle.
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Old 08-31-2014, 09:14 PM   #34
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I was riding with a business associate in his Escalade and asked why he had 4WD... in Houston. He said he couldn't buy the vehicle without 4WD, and had only engaged it once, just to see if the button worked. This is the kind of ridiculous waste that we have reached.
I agree. 4WD drive seems to be on everyone's list, although the vast majority will never use it. AWD is great, and we've been glad we had it a few times when the roads were slick.
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Old 09-01-2014, 05:55 AM   #35
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My Infiniti has all wheel drive and it engages it as needed. It's nice. I think the GMC Denali pickup has all wheel drive. That may be nice too. 4X4 is manual and I mostly used it when it was raining, or in the mountains. There's also 4WD clubs that go to places to play with all 4 wheels.

A 36 gallon tank and 24 MPG highway. Over 800 miles on a tank of gas makes my butt ache thinkin about it. I need to stop at about 300 miles max for gas and to stretch my legs. Pups like to go for a short walk too.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:11 AM   #36
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A 36 gallon tank and 24 MPG highway. Over 800 miles on a tank of gas makes my butt ache thinkin about it. I need to stop at about 300 miles max for gas and to stretch my legs. Pups like to go for a short walk too.
Yup. When travelong long distances we have a rule to stop every 3 hours whether we need it or not. Makes the dog happier too.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:30 AM   #37
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My biggest complaint about the RAV4 as a tow vehicle for the 17 is the size of the gas tank - 15 gallons. Although I do OK at an 15MPG average, headwinds can knock that down to under 10, which makes some of the drives between stations out west interesting.
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I see your point Jon. Its nice to know you CAN travel far, even if you don't.
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Out old truck had a 96 L tank which with its poor mileage made about 300 km the comfortable range on a tank of gas sometimes a bit nerve racking managing gas stops. We always needed gas before food and bathroom breaks . Now with a bigger fuel tank and a bit better mileage the food and bathroom breaks dictate the stops and we just fill up the gas while we are stopped . A bit more range on the tank is quite nice.
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My Infiniti has all wheel drive and it engages it as needed. It's nice. I think the GMC Denali pickup has all wheel drive.
That would be nice, and one might hope that after jacking up the price for the Denali trim level you could get functional improvements, but GM offers the same owners manual for all version of GMC Sierra 1500, and it contains this typical part-time-only 4WD warning:
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Driving on clean, dry pavement in four-wheel drive for an extended period of time can cause premature wear on the vehicle's powertrain. Do not drive on clean, dry pavement in four-wheel drive for extended periods of time.
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While driving on clean, dry pavement and during tight turns, you may experience vibration in the steering system.
A Yukon Denali (or Cadillac equivalent) is the corresponding SUV, and would presumably have a proper AWD system.

The uselessness of truck 4WD systems for highway use is one of the reasons that as I drive my two-wheel-drive car on winter highways, I see 4WD pickups in the ditch almost as much as any other type of vehicle... although the "winner" is the SUVs driven by incompetents who think they are invulnerable.

None of this, of course, has anything to do with diesels... except that if you buy a pickup just to get a diesel, you get a pickup.
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