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Old 01-28-2017, 09:09 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Tongue weight 2017 21' and info I learned today.

I was curious about my tongue weight. 2017 21'
Dual solar (factory)
Under belly foam
Thermal awning windows
Extra wall insulation.
Dual 6v. All plug inverter. Etc.

All tanks 100% empty.
Front storage container empty.
Some kitchen stuff in the escape. A few tools and spare parts stored in the dinette benches. No food onboard.

Tongue weight = 420 lbs. Shureline 1000 lb scale. Trailer is level.

I then filled the fresh water tank.
Tongue weight = 400 lbs. No shock there.

I then put 3 folding camp chairs plus a small folding table into the previously empty front storage cargo box and the tongue weight went from 400 lbs to 412 lbs.

When I moved the 3 chairs + table to under the bed (at the foot of the bed) and the tongue weight dropped to 405 lbs.

When I then moved the 3 folding chairs and folding table to under the dinette the tongue weight dropped to 397 lbs.

I did all this to get a better (general) understanding of how placement of items affects tongue weight.

Our Tug has a hitch weight limit of 500 lbs / 5000 towing capacity

BUT I know that tongue weight should be 10 to 12-ish percent of total actual weight , if I recall correctly.

Posting this info here so a few others can learn as I did.

Cheers

John.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:25 PM   #2
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Good info for us other (soon to be in our case) 21 owners. Thanks for making those measurements and sharing them.

What is the dry weight of your 21 according to the sticker?
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Did you remove the weight from the scale between measurements? I recall something in the instructions about that.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:37 PM   #4
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Good info for us other (soon to be in our case) 21 owners. Thanks for making those measurements and sharing them.

What is the dry weight of your 21 according to the sticker?
GVWR is 5,000 lbs on both stickers.

But I know that isn't dry weight

And dry weight does not seem to be listed on either sticker.



And I did lift off the scale a couple times to reset it.

It was very very consistent with its readings.
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Escape paperwork should have your weight with your options before loading. GVWR is total allowed when loaded.
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John - it may look like this one from our 17 - this was glued inside our wardrobe, The dry weight is the GVWR minus the Cargo Capacity. So for our 21 it was 1590 kg (3500 #) - 441kg (972#) = 1149 kg or about 2530 lbs

The same info was on the silver label on the outside of the trailer.
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John - it may look like this one from our 17 - this was glued inside our wardrobe, The dry weight is the GVWR minus the Cargo Capacity. So for our 21 it was 1590 kg (3500 #) - 441kg (972#) = 1149 kg or about 2530 lbs

The same info was on the silver label on the outside of the trailer.
If that Is true for us, then the dry weight is 3,919 lbs.
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If that Is true for us, then the dry weight is 3,919 lbs.
That is pretty high but not impossible if you reinforced a lot of walls and bought about every option. You can get the number from your paperwork and see if it agrees.
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That is pretty high but not impossible if you reinforced a lot of walls and bought about every option. You can get the number from your paperwork and see if it agrees.
No reinforced walls.
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Oops , dry weight should also subtract the fresh water and hot water weights from the GVWR on the silver sticker... 95 kg and 26 kg in the case of our 17b. I'll plead aging mind....
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