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Old 05-10-2016, 02:24 PM   #31
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Got stuck once in my Scamp similar situation, not fun.
General Question; Is the 19 easier to back up than the 21? I'm finding that the 19 is the easiest trailer I've ever backed into spots with, but I've not pulled anything but Scamps and a 17B, and it's easier than all of those. I've been sticking it into campsites on first try with no corrections, very positive handling. Stuck it into a 10' gap between my garage and wife's car the other day on the first shot.
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Old 05-10-2016, 02:43 PM   #32
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Our 21' is easier to back than the 19'--- because we had the 19' first.
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Old 05-10-2016, 02:49 PM   #33
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Another towing story

Lundbom Lake (http://www.sitesandtrailsbc.ca/searc...e&site=REC1883). We got to a fork in the road at the first camping area. One fork had a “boat launch” sign so we took the other fork thinking it would lead us to the camp ground (most campgrounds that have boat launch signs means you drive down that road to the launch site). The road we took was a single lane, twisting, up and down rutted dirt road which took us along the lake (turns out there is a better road on the other side of the lake). We drove for about 5 minutes watching the first camping area recede into the distance. As the road got worse and worse, we finally stopped and spent the next 3/4 of an hour or so backing up …. stressful but a learning experience.

It took quite awhile and one more backing up training exercise when we followed the advise of a fellow camper who didn’t realize just how green we are to all this and didn’t realize our little trailer doesn’t like rough steep trails but we finally got ourselves sorted out at the other end of the lake. $12.00 a night camping fee - not bad now that we are on a retirement budget. Open range land which I love. People take their horses and ATVs up there. A lot of people came up for the wknd with their ATVs. We left on Saturday. We stayed at Lundbom 3 nights. People seemed really nice and friendly - no street vibe at all.

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Old 05-10-2016, 02:56 PM   #34
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I think the problem for most of us is that we tow just infrequently enough for it to never really get to be second nature like lots of skills we have. I find myself thinking about it rather than being able to just do it. Best advice, (when I remember to follow it) was from the guy I bought our popup from long ago. He showed me to put my hand on the very bottom of the steering wheel and then move my hand (and the wheel) in the direction I want the rear of the trailer to go.

Dave - did aspirin work for that horse's headache? - I'm betting not.
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Old 05-10-2016, 03:07 PM   #35
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[QUOTE=Greg A;142109]
General Question; Is the 19 easier to back up than the 21? I'm finding that the 19 is the easiest trailer I've ever backed into spots with, but I've not pulled anything but Scamps and a 17B, and it's easier than all of those.QUOTE]

My view is that the greater the distance between between the ball and the trailer axle, the easier it is to back up. Much more forgiving.

I've had a short m/c trailer that was lethal to back up and long boat trailers that were a dream to back up.

On that basis I'd say the 21 might be a tiny bit easier to back up than a 19 but maybe not enough to even notice.

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Old 05-10-2016, 03:11 PM   #36
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Makes sense Ron, that would explain why the Scamp 13's were always the most squirelly things to back in somewhere.
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Old 05-10-2016, 03:17 PM   #37
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All I know is, in about 2 years when I trade in my F150 for a new one with Pro-Trailer Backup Assist, I'm going to look alot less foolish when setting up at a campground. Of course, I'll take any credit for being a "pro", and won't talk about the little knob....

Wait....doh! The secret's already out.
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Old 05-10-2016, 03:31 PM   #38
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Man, I love these trailer backing-up-trouble stories. Thinking these are valuable learning lessons we all need to experience, well, at least once. Reminds me of my one such memorable incident with the 19 on a side road up through a Durango residential area that became a narrow one-lane-er beside a cliff going up a mountain to an alleged "campground" that ended suddenly with a chained shut gate. Was too spooked to back it back down. Gathering locals gave me respectful assistance while somehow I K-turned everything around.
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Old 05-10-2016, 03:34 PM   #39
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My worst was getting my 23' sticky jammed in between trees so bad up at Spray Lakes in the Rockies that I had to unhook the truck and trailer twice to get out of there.
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I think the problem for most of us is that we tow just infrequently enough for it to never really get to be second nature like lots of skills we have.
I agree. I had to back trailers all the time when I was a teenager on the farm, and in high school ag class we had to back a two-wheel trailer through an obstacle course. So one problem is that I'm out of practice.

The other problem, though, is that not being able to see where I'm going unnerves me more than I anticipated. Hopefully the rear view camera will ameliorate the situation.
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