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Old 05-09-2016, 10:45 AM   #31
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how does one get back behind the toilet to replace the valve?

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It depends on the model and year of Escape. In our 2008 5.0 Classic we had to cut the supply line in the hatch (where the landing gear controls are) and remove the toilet. See our thread: Replacing toilet flush valve !?!?!?

In recent years, Escape has begun to use flexible lines which make it easier.
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Old 05-10-2016, 10:06 AM   #32
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we have a 2012 escape 17. thinking we may need to removed toilet to do any kind of work behind.
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Old 05-12-2016, 10:39 AM   #33
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So I'm Dan's wife -- and I'm about to order the Thetford 31705, but before I do, Dan talked to Tammy about this, and she suggested that the older version of the 31705 (which was manufactured I guess up until about two years ago) is more reliable. Someone may have mentioned this in this thread too -- I haven't gone back to look this morning.

Anyway -- before I order, is anyone aware of an online place that may have stashed the older 31705?

And, Myron, your photos are helpful BUT we still can't figure out how we'd get to this without removing the toilet. Our specs are in our sig -- will we need to pull the loo? And do you recommend grabbing a better o-ring at the hardware store before attempting this, as to save one of those always fun "in the middle of the job" grumpy errands?

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Old 05-12-2016, 10:47 AM   #34
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E I believe Thetford changed that valve sometime, so that it could no longer be fully drained from the low point drain. That change causes Reace to change the winterizing method recommended so that antifreeze gets into the valve or water is blown out of it with air pressure. I don't know if that is the change Tammy is referring to, or if they changed something 2 years ago that made them less reliable overall.
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Old 05-12-2016, 10:54 AM   #35
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That's probably what Tammy's referring to - I'll check with Dan.
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So I'm Dan's wife -- and I'm about to order the Thetford 31705, but before I do, Dan talked to Tammy about this, and she suggested that the older version of the 31705 (which was manufactured I guess up until about two years ago) is more reliable. Someone may have mentioned this in this thread too -- I haven't gone back to look this morning.

Anyway -- before I order, is anyone aware of an online place that may have stashed the older 31705?

And, Myron, your photos are helpful BUT we still can't figure out how we'd get to this without removing the toilet. Our specs are in our sig -- will we need to pull the loo? And do you recommend grabbing a better o-ring at the hardware store before attempting this, as to save one of those always fun "in the middle of the job" grumpy errands?

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Yes, our toilet had to be removed.
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Old 05-12-2016, 11:37 AM   #37
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Thanks, Cathy -- anyone know if our trailer would have the same general toilet specs as Cathy's? We may just give Reace a shout and see what he says today too.

"Pulling the Loo" -- seems like someone should have written a children's song about this
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All I can tell you is on my 2013 19 I was able to get my hands back there and manually unscrew the PEX connection from my Thetford valve. Two floor bolts later the unit was removed and ready for its replacement valve.
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Thanks, Cathy -- anyone know if our trailer would have the same general toilet specs as Cathy's? We may just give Reace a shout and see what he says today too.

"Pulling the Loo" -- seems like someone should have written a children's song about this
That was our 2011 19'. It is possible that the shop that did ours --- even though maybe it could be done without removing the toilet --- did not consider removing it to be a big deal as they do it all of the time, and had no interest in trying to work back there leaving it in, as that is easiest for them. They have seen hundreds of cracked toilet valves, they said.
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Gotcha Cathy (thanks for clarifying), and thanks to both of you. I think we're gonna give Reace a buzz just to check before we get in over our heads -- tho trying may be worth the hassle we'd save driving two hours RT to a tech we trust to fix this ...

Thetford is the only game in town, right? I'm always amazed these companies somehow keep going with components that are bound to fail -- and fail quickly. Same thing with our door lock
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