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Old 01-07-2015, 08:46 AM   #1
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Schematic for 19 foot Escape

Adding schematic for 19 foot.
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Old 01-07-2015, 09:07 AM   #2
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This is YOUR build right? Not the default from ETI?
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:00 AM   #3
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Schematic from Crystal, no changes, standard locations for plugs, and numbering for walls to choose reinforced ones, I chose 1 and 6, though seems like 2 is wall for coax for tv.
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Old 01-07-2015, 11:12 AM   #4
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No sense in getting reinforced walls without getting the tv hookups at the location also, otherwise the reinforcement is not needed. In addition, in both of my Escapes that had reinforced walls I ended up installing the tv mount along the edge where it is "stock" reinforced. No sense in adding the weight needlessly.
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Old 01-07-2015, 11:23 AM   #5
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Schematic does not show exterior 120V outlet.
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Old 01-07-2015, 12:24 PM   #6
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For a second the thread name gave me hope that someone else had actually taken the time to do a 12 volt schematic. Still on the to-do list for me.

Gotta agree with ordering reinforced walls on spec. There are usually ways to mount things pretty much anywhere. Looking at build photos showing the interior structure of the walls is helpful.

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Just a minor point here but when I picked up the trailer, Reace installed Umbra hooks on the two walls of the my wardrobe and neither wall was "reinforced." The trailer is out in storage so I can't remember--he may have placed a piece of lath or something like that on the interior to catch the screws but I really don't think so. On the exterior door side (three hooks), I hang coats and my walking stick. On the other side by the dinette (two hooks), I hang my binocs and camera. This does not compare with the placement of a television.
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Just a minor point here but when I picked up the trailer, Reace installed Umbra hooks on the two walls of the my wardrobe and neither wall was "reinforced." The trailer is out in storage so I can't remember--he may have placed a piece of lath or something like that on the interior to catch the screws but I really don't think so. On the exterior door side (three hooks), I hang coats and my walking stick. On the other side by the dinette (two hooks), I hang my binocs and camera. This does not compare with the placement of a television.
Did you order umbra hooks and then fedex/ups them to ETI?

I guess only real need is for coat, etc. on reinforced wall, not a TV watcher!

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Did you order umbra hooks and then fedex/ups them to ETI?
Some have done that, but we ordered 2 Umbra Hooks and did not ship them to ETI, mainly because the shipping costs to Canada started piling up. We will be taking them with us and ask them to install them on the day of pickup. ETI is great about things like that. Another benefit is that we can mark exactly where we want them installed.
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Did you order umbra hooks and then fedex/ups them to ETI?...
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Some have done that, but we ordered 2 Umbra Hooks and did not ship them to ETI, mainly because the shipping costs to Canada started piling up. We will be taking them with us and ask them to install them on the day of pickup. ETI is great about things like that...
It may save you a few dollars in shipping to bring it with you, but it can wreak havoc with ETI's schedule if they are forced to install multiple doodads on the day of pickup. The way I see it is that the folks at ETI are very busy and I wanted to let them finish our Escape as much as possible within their own schedule, thus, I tried to bring a minimum of items requiring their time to install on pick-up day. Early in the build, I sent a large box to Escape via mail containing an assortment of items for our trailer. The only item we brought with us requiring ETI assistance on pick-up day was our Tekonsha Prodigy RF brake controller that needed to be installed on the front frame of the trailer, and we asked Tammy weeks in advance if we could have their assistance with that.
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Did you order umbra hooks and then fedex/ups them to ETI?
I took my 5-hook Umbra to ETI on one of my earlier trips but Reace wanted to wait for pick up so I could tell him exactly where I wanted them. He cut the 5-hook unit into one 3-hook unit and one 2-hook unit and then installed them.
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It may save you a few dollars in shipping to bring it with you, but it can wreak havoc with ETI's schedule if they are forced to install multiple doodads on the day of pickup. The way I see it is that the folks at ETI are very busy and I wanted to let them finish our Escape as much as possible within their own schedule, thus, I tried to bring a minimum of items requiring their time to install on pick-up day. Early in the build, I sent a large box to Escape via mail containing an assortment of items for our trailer. The only item we brought with us requiring ETI assistance on pick-up day was our Tekonsha Prodigy RF brake controller that needed to be installed on the front frame of the trailer, and we asked Tammy weeks in advance if we could have their assistance with that.
I don't disagree. We did ask if they could be installed on the day of pickup. Also, the vast majority of the custom items were shipped to ETI, and will already be installed when the trailer is done. As long as it's just a minor item like this, I don't see it as a big deal. Yes ETI is busy, but a ten minute item like this won't wreak havoc on their schedule.
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ETI day of pick up work

We had some umbra hooks shipped to ETI -- but they didn't install them until the morning of our pickup. Reace wanted us to tell him exactly where to put them. The same was true of our TV mounts. We didn't bother reinforcing any walls. I had discussed it with Tammy, and she said that as long we were just hanging coats, hats, etc from the hooks we were fine. Reace did do a bit of tapping around to find some sort of re-inforcement on the walls before he put the screws in, but it wasn't too much.

But, the points about disrupting the work flow are well taken. ETI was well aware that we were asking them to do these installations, and were waiting for us bright an early on the day of pickup.
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Gotta agree with ordering reinforced walls on spec.
Ron, I never had any walls reinforced, it wasn't even and option then, and I have a couple magazine racks, and a row of coat hooks solidly mounted, no problem.
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In regards to umbra hooks, Crystal responded back to my inquiry regarding whether or not to reinforce walls.

If installed in top of wall, there is a 4 inch brace, if installed lower then should reinforce wall.
I would want them up anyway, so I think the reinforced wall is not needed for the umbra hooks.

Thanks for post it is very helpful in making decisions.
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Ron, I never had any walls reinforced, it wasn't even and option then, and I have a couple magazine racks, and a row of coat hooks solidly mounted, no problem.
Maybe I should have re-phrased my comment, but that's exactly what I meant. Usually, especially if you look at build photos for info, there's a way to mount things without ordering reinforced walls.

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