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01-15-2018, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
reading the manual for the stove we have, it says not to put large pots on it that hang over the edge, as they can burn adjacent surfaces.
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And I'm sure for most cooking it will never be an issue. I just remember taking a large pot and cooking a bunch of pasta for a potluck. I suppose it could be cooked in batches is a smaller pot...
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01-15-2018, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Donna D.
And I'm sure for most cooking it will never be an issue. I just remember taking a large pot and cooking a bunch of pasta for a potluck. I suppose it could be cooked in batches is a smaller pot...
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Or done outside. I set up a Coleman propane stove with a 20 Lb bottle and fried and smelly foods are cooked outside on the picnic table. If I had that style stove I guess I would add big pots.
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01-15-2018, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Donna D.
And I'm sure for most cooking it will never be an issue. I just remember taking a large pot and cooking a bunch of pasta for a potluck. I suppose it could be cooked in batches is a smaller pot...
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You have to have the big sink for the big pot while you are cooking for 100 people for those NOGs!
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01-15-2018, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Donna D.
I can tell I'm in the minority, I don't like these stoves. The burners sit lower than the edge and need to for the lid to close. IF you use a large pot, it wouldn't be centered over the burner and depending on the size, it can be waaay off center. Glass doesn't really give you more counter space... just visually, I'd rather have a cutting board. YMMV
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I agree with Donna or I should say my wife does. One of the reasons we did not like the Airstream Bambi models, was for this very reason. (Not to mention the price).
With the burner element lower it limited the size of pan or pot one could use and keep it level. Nice stove, but as the Airstream salesman said, “just another excuse to eat out...”
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01-15-2018, 08:42 PM
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I'm fairly sure that the reason my daughter and son-in-law managed to blow up my one-burner butane stove is that the fry pan was too large and overheated the butane tank.
Always pays to read the instruction manual.
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01-15-2018, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Moaboy
Nice stove, but as the Airstream salesman said, “just another excuse to eat out...”
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Or, a reason to get the stove and oven
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01-15-2018, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rbryan4
My Dickinson is recessed, but I've never had an issue with the pot size. Maybe it's just that we use smaller pans when we camp?
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Perhaps the key is the distance from the centre of the burner to the closest point of the housing above the burner top plane. With the Dickinson that's the edge of the box; with the Suburban stove shown, it may be closer, particularly toward the side or back (as conventionally oriented).
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01-15-2018, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Vermilye
Another option for those that want a 3 burner stove with a large counter space is to get the oven & the cutting board cover. Probably wouldn't work with the 17, and a tight fit with the 19, but it works for me in the 21 since I wanted the oven anyway. I've never used all 3 burners, but I do use the oven...
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I really like that wood cover, Jon! Where might one source that item?
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01-16-2018, 06:40 AM
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In our 2009 19 we had a SMEV combo stove/sink unit that had the glass covers.
The glass cover on the stove got used a lot, giving more space for food prep or washing dishes. The sink cover rarely was closed when camped, as access to water is needed a fair bit.
One thing with that stove that we did not like was that the output was not that great. Boiling water took forever. It was faster to take the time to set up the outdoor stove and get water boiling on it. What is the output of this new stove. Now that we have the Dickinson range, and the fantastic burners they use, it would be tough to use something with less performance.
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01-16-2018, 07:12 AM
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I really like that wood cover, Jon! Where might one source that item?
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The oven and 3 burner stove option in the 21 has a removable cover, which is easily removed and you can purchase the wooden top from Camping world, it has 4 movable feet underneath that lock onto the stove top stove grill. I had one in my 21, "BlackJack"
Oak Accents Universal Silent Top - Camco 43521 - Counter & Stove Tops - Camping World
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01-16-2018, 07:24 AM
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Tyvm cp
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01-16-2018, 10:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sclifrickson
I really like that wood cover, Jon! Where might one source that item?
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Jon..... a whole lot of people are liking what we see in your picture.....
What is your source?
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01-16-2018, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Honair
Jon..... a whole lot of people are liking what we see in your picture.....
What is your source?
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See #30
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01-16-2018, 11:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sclifrickson
I really like that wood cover, Jon! Where might one source that item?
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The wood cover came from Camping World. This one is similar, but they had a couple versions & I liked the ungrooved one best. They have notched feet on the bottom that fit into the stovetop grill. I have not had it bounce off while traveling.
Do a search for Camco Silent Stovetop Cover. I'm pretty sure this is the one I have.
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01-16-2018, 03:26 PM
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I assume this does not affect the stove/oven option?
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01-16-2018, 03:50 PM
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I assume this does not affect the stove/oven option?
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Your assumption seems logical, but ETI would be the source for your answer.
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01-16-2018, 08:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
In our 2009 19 we had a SMEV combo stove/sink unit that had the glass covers.
The glass cover on the stove got used a lot, giving more space for food prep or washing dishes. The sink cover rarely was closed when camped, as access to water is needed a fair bit.
One thing with that stove that we did not like was that the output was not that great. Boiling water took forever. It was faster to take the time to set up the outdoor stove and get water boiling on it. What is the output of this new stove. Now that we have the Dickinson range, and the fantastic burners they use, it would be tough to use something with less performance.
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Jim:
Suburban doesn’t appear to have this new stove out at retailers and marketing to the general public yet. I’ll post the burner output if they get back to me. They needed to speak to Engineering.
In the meantime, just for fun....
Current ETI offerings:
Atwood DV20 (2 burner): 7200 BTU large, 5200 BTU small burner
Atwood DV30 (3 burner): same as above, add one @ 5200 BTU
Atwood Oven/Stove combo: 9,000 BTU large, two 6500 BTU
Others:
SMEV PI8022US 2 burner: 5900 BTU large, 3700 BTU small
SMEV PI8822LUS 2 burner: 7200 BTU large, 3700 BTU small
Older Suburban (2 burner): 6500 BTU each
Older Suburban (3 burner): 6500 BTU large, two @ 5200 BTU
Dometic 3BR-1040132 RV: 3 burners @ 3700 BTU
Dickinson (2 burner): 11000 BTU large, 7000 BTU small
Nothing will boil water like the Dickinson!
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If you enlarge the burner holes you will boil water faster, and you will use more propane. Those cheap BBQs you see at big box stores are designed like that so they can brag about the BTUs.
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Originally Posted by gbaglo
If you enlarge the burner holes you will boil water faster, and you will use more propane. Those cheap BBQs you see at big box stores are designed like that so they can brag about the BTUs.
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With higher BTU output, you will use more propane per minute to boil water, but since you're taking fewer minutes to do it, the total propane consumption will probably be about the same. As a cooktop, I'd prefer it hotter and quicker when I need it to be. Also, the BTU output isn't solely a function of how large the burner holes are. With my Dickinson Marine cooktop for example, the BTU output is much higher than the stock one was, but part of that is achieved by concentric rings of output in the burners. The design also means more even heat across the pan with no hot spots. I haven't noticed any increase in propane use, but I have definitely noticed it takes less time to cook. Lastly, there are certain cooking techniques that require higher heat to do properly. With the Dickinson, that's not an issue.
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Playing with Fire ? I’d want to do a bit of research about enlarging the burner holes as the stoves r designed around specific safety specification. Not sure I’d want to deviate from manufacture’s original design in this application.
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