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Old 08-30-2016, 06:12 PM   #71
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Double WOW! What a productive company!! That many classics, followed by the 2017's. A very good year for Reace, Tammy and the team.
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Old 08-30-2016, 10:15 PM   #72
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Thank you so much Linda for putting into words exactly what I was thinking. Fwiw, I very much agree with your statement. Nobody should be "chastised" because they question a company's business practices, public or private- good, bad or ugly, it's all part of the conversation. And I've noticed myself this isn't the first time. So Laura, please don't let the crotchety farts get you down I quite like your contributions to this forum
Well will try this again the censors are busy today . I hate any form of bulling . Also besides quality control , someone needs to fix Escape's website . Showing trailers that are not going to be made any longer "Classic" shouldn't be on website without a disclaimer . Why are they mixed with the new trailers ? Just saying . Pat
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Old 08-30-2016, 10:26 PM   #73
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What censorship are you referring to? Have any posts disappeared? I'm not going to read them all for a third time to discover that there has been no censorship.
And, I'm not going to read them all again to find that there has been no bullying, just a difference of opinion.
And, that's my opinion.
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Old 08-30-2016, 10:40 PM   #74
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... someone needs to fix Escape's website . Showing trailers that are not going to be made any longer "Classic" shouldn't be on website without a disclaimer . Why are they mixed with the new trailers ? Just saying . Pat
Right, even though the last of the "classics" have not yet been built, one cannot be ordered - they are no longer offered for sale. There's nothing wrong with that... you probably can't order most 2016 model year cars, either.

The big issue for a potential buyer is that there is no reasonable way to know which information on the Escape Trailer Industries website is correct, and which is outdated. Sadly, I would suggest to buyers that they do not believe anything (specs, features, options, photos) without individually confirming each bit of information which matters to them.

Managing online information has certainly been difficult for Escape staff, and I do sympathize with the challenge of publishing complete and correct information in a changing environment.
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Old 08-30-2016, 10:44 PM   #75
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What censorship are you referring to? Have any posts disappeared? I'm not going to read them all for a third time to discover that there has been no censorship.
Yes, at least two posts have disappeared. Pat (of PatandLinda) had commented how ETI's web site shows photos of both the old style and the new style and how it should reflect the current style that folks can order. Anyone going to their website should be able to see the style of trailer they can order, not what they can't get. I'm paraphrasing here, but that was the general idea.

I copied his post and said that I agree and that ETI's web site should be the first source of reference for anyone wanting to order. And how it's hard to find things on this site when you do a search as lots of hits come up. I also questioned if someone new to this forum would even know what to look for. I continued by saying that I run my own web site and it's very easy to update it and with today's software anyone should be able to do the same. I'm paraphrasing again.

But, I guess since Pat and I were making disparaging remarks about ETI, one of the moderators decided to remove both of those posts. I'm unable to find my reply by checking through my recent posts. However, someone subscribed to this thread may have gotten one or both of those posts in their individual emails. I know that's happened to me before. A post will show up in my email as being part of a thread, but when I go to look for it, it's gone. Either they removed it or a moderator did for some reason or another.

So, that's what Pat is referring to. Yes, there has been some censorship going on. I was recently reminded (in a PM) that this forum is not a democracy and the moderators are able to do this sort of thing at their will, including kicking people off if they want to.

It's rather sad when someone points out something that anyone in their right mind would agree with (that their website should be up to date with their photos) and is censored for it.

Oh, and now I see that Brian B-P has basically agreed with Pat's post about their web site. Will his post be removed as well? Will this post be removed?
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Old 08-30-2016, 11:04 PM   #76
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Moderators are expected to send a PM to a member who's post has been removed, explaining the action taken.
I'm no longer on the site team so I can't explain, nor am I paying close attention.
As for ETI's website, it's been mentioned before that it costs money each time you make a change, if you are paying somebody to do the work. I expect that ETI waits until they have significant changes to make and then do them all at once.
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Old 08-30-2016, 11:08 PM   #77
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Old 08-30-2016, 11:13 PM   #78
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(snip) As for ETI's website, it's been mentioned before that it costs money each time you make a change, if you are paying somebody to do the work. I expect that ETI waits until they have significant changes to make and then do them all at once.
The software programs available aren't super expensive and someone can put together a very nice website on their own these days without any coding knowledge. In my deleted post I mentioned that I use Ecwid and Weebly for my site. I have more pages than you get for free (with Weebly), but it's well worth the cost to get unlimited pages. Sure, it may take a while to set it up, but once it's set up it's very, very easy to make changes and add/delete photos and anything else you want to.

They're already making changes when they update the production schedule or the delivery schedule. And, as "they" say, you have to spend money to make money or some such thing.

and when you have incorrect information, it does tend to make folks wonder what's going on. Good example off the top of my head - for the 17A there's a photo of a bathroom. Yeah, the bathroom.
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I'd say that about covers it. Live every day as if it were your last, one day you will be right.
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