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Old 07-29-2016, 11:11 PM   #11
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Thanks Brent for bringing this to our attention. Ours started up last trip in May; sent an email requesting replacement unit to MTI Industries who makes this unit.
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Old 07-30-2016, 12:14 AM   #12
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Jill, I have to ask; have you seen your husband lately? Is he conscious? Alert? Groggy? Awake?
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Old 07-30-2016, 07:20 AM   #13
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What a coincidence - our alarm sounded for the first time today too! We picked up our trailer in January of this year. We've had 100+ degree weather for the last week and think that contributed to it. Also we had one of the propane tanks open just a bit - so maybe it was a valid alarm? Although I don't understand why it would leak and why it would leak into the trailer. We tightened up the tanks and let the trailer air a bit and it hasn't sounded again. If it doesn't sound again, I'm going to assume it was a valid alarm.
Jill, while I wouldn't make that assumption having dealt with this problem, it may very well have been a valud alert. While conversing with the manufacturer, I was told that if a dog lays next to the detector, it could go off. And many things (outgassing, paint odors, etc.) Mine is installed in the front of the dinette bench, somewhat near and in the same compartment as the supposedly sealed battery box. Since the detector has openings on its front and back side, I have often wondered if slight amounts of hydrogen gas are leaking into the compartment and not all are going out of the battery's vent tube. I have found that opening the outside hatch and placing a small fan in the storage compartment will sometimes clear the problem and stop the alarm. But you haven't lived until a propane alarm rattles you out of a deep sleep betwee 1:00 and 4:00 AM (when ours typically goes off). That is why ours is now controlled by a toggle switch; shut it off and deal with it in the morning unless I smell propane. Yes, I want to know if there is a propane leak, but any technology that produces unexplainable phantom alarms like the "boy who cried wolf" can create other issues. While it is better to be safe than sorry, being awakened three nights in a row in the middle of the night when the detector functioned "flawlessly" (no other alarms) for the rest of that 72 hour period was a bit much for us. After screwing around with it for 15 minutes in the middle of the night, it is often difficult to fall asleep again.
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Old 07-30-2016, 07:28 AM   #14
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My thoughts exactly on the batteries being the source. Haven't had mine go off during a trip as yet but I think a disconnect switch is going in the spares box.
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This seems to predominantly be affecting relatively new 21's and 5.0 TA's which have the batteries located inside. Maybe the detectors are not defective but picking up interior leaks from the battery boxes. Don't know how valid it is but I've read a couple of places that batteries off-gassing will set off the propane detectors.
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Old 07-30-2016, 12:21 PM   #16
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Ten Forward is two years old and my propane detector hasn't gone off once (knock wood). But then again, I don't have a pet that may leave hair on the floor and I vacuum the filter after every trip... because I'm vacuuming the floor anyway. Or maybe the propane detector in my trailer is an anomaly.
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Ten Forward is two years old and my propane detector hasn't gone off once (knock wood). But then again, I don't have a pet that may leave hair on the floor and I vacuum the filter after every trip... because I'm vacuuming the floor anyway. Or maybe the propane detector in my trailer is an anomaly.
2013 and never had the alarm go off . Have 3 Shih tzu's . Never cleaned alarm , maybe will do it now as a precaution . Pat
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Old 07-30-2016, 01:45 PM   #18
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Jill, I have to ask; have you seen your husband lately? Is he conscious? Alert? Groggy? Awake?
Hahaha! Unfortunately we've only been able to use our trailer 4 nights since pickup in January! It's been sitting closed up on our driveway. When I open it up it has a strong "new trailer" odor which could contribute to the problem? Not the odor itself, but the gasses from all those new materials?

Today it sounded again, coincidentally around the same time as yesterday, and that is with the propane tanks fully off this time. So I don't think it was a valid alarm. Timing wise, the sun is hitting the solar panels and probably recharging the battery so maybe it is related to recharging?

For now, I turned off the battery switch and left some windows open to air things out. Hmmm. If I plug in the trailer so the sensor gets power, and leave the battery switch off so I can be sure the battery isn't charging, and the alarm stops, can I assume battery charging is the cause
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Battery will charge whether the battery switch is on or off. Solar goes direct to battery and I'm not sure but shore power will probably continue to charge the battery with switch off, but someone else can confirm that one way or another.
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Jill, while I wouldn't make that assumption having dealt with this problem, it may very well have been a valud alert. While conversing with the manufacturer, I was told that if a dog lays next to the detector, it could go off. And many things (outgassing, paint odors, etc.) Mine is installed in the front of the dinette bench, somewhat near and in the same compartment as the supposedly sealed battery box. Since the detector has openings on its front and back side, I have often wondered if slight amounts of hydrogen gas are leaking into the compartment and not all are going out of the battery's vent tube. I have found that opening the outside hatch and placing a small fan in the storage compartment will sometimes clear the problem and stop the alarm. But you haven't lived until a propane alarm rattles you out of a deep sleep betwee 1:00 and 4:00 AM (when ours typically goes off). That is why ours is now controlled by a toggle switch; shut it off and deal with it in the morning unless I smell propane. Yes, I want to know if there is a propane leak, but any technology that produces unexplainable phantom alarms like the "boy who cried wolf" can create other issues. While it is better to be safe than sorry, being awakened three nights in a row in the middle of the night when the detector functioned "flawlessly" (no other alarms) for the rest of that 72 hour period was a bit much for us. After screwing around with it for 15 minutes in the middle of the night, it is often difficult to fall asleep again.
Do you folks have the dual 6 volt or single 12 volt batteries? I ask because I wonder if the golf cart batteries don't produce a lot more gas than a single battery. Golf carts aren't sealed as well so hydrogen leaks aren't a problem. I just remember refilling a golf cart battery bank once and the caps just easily popped off. My car batteries caps need to be pried off with the help of a screwdriver.
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