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Old 08-19-2014, 07:00 PM   #11
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I often fill my fresh water at home when heading to BC Forest Service Camp. I've had no issues. And, I have a Sherline scale to measure the tongue. I'm almost always at #320 or a bit more.
Of course, I have six dozen beers under the front dinette.
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Golly, I don't know what people do who head out into the wilderness (or to some Forest Service campgrounds in Washington State) with empty FW tanks. Where do they get their water?
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Of course, I have six dozen beers under the front dinette.
Safety weights.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:03 PM   #14
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Barry - what's the name of the campground?
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:13 PM   #15
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We have a 19 and often travel with a full fresh water tank - no problems. See post #8 in It's All About GVWR... for actual weights
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In some cases, maybe it depends on the trailer, having a large amount of water could cause handling problems with the trailer if there is sudden braking, or a quick, sharp zig zag turn to avoid something or someone one the road. The water will slosh around. (Have you ever carried a full container with an open top?) The reaction of the sloshing will not be the same timing as the vehicle or trailer and it takes longer for the water to recover causing the trailer to sway more and longer.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:16 PM   #17
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Barry if you ordered the front storage box and dual 6v batteries you will not have a problem with a full fresh water tank and water heater. Adding 18 gallons of fresh water and filling the hot water heater lowered the tongue weight on our Escape 19 only 35 lbs. I do not tow with a full tank to lower trailer weight. Usually 12 gallons in the fresh water tank is adequate for the first night out.
We have never used a campsite with full hookups. Fill fresh water tanks when arriving at the campground and dump/refill on the way out.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:26 PM   #18
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I like Glens idea of using beer as balast, if its not towing well , pull over and enjoy a few pops and worry about it tomorrow
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I have towed with the fresh tank at various levels, but because of mostly boondocking, we usually have the tank full. If towing through lots of mountains with the Pilot, and knowing we will have fresh water available at the destination, we will only put a few gallons in, as the weight savings can be noticed, mostly in performance, but likely a wee bit in fuel economy as well.

For those of you using pickups or other large tow vehicles, the weight would not be an issue. I know towing with my F-350 diesel, it barely notices the trailer, let alone the water on board.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:59 PM   #20
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No, the trailers are not meant to be towed with fresh tank full. In fact, they are meant to be towed with fresh tank empty. A full tank has been a real problem.
I don't think that's true of RVs (including travel trailers) in general; in fact, the capacity table provided in new RVs shows the cargo carrying capacity after allowing for a full water tank... and it makes sense: if you can't fill the tank, why make it so large?

Do you mean that specifically Escapes are not meant to be towed with a full fresh tank? The fresh water tank is - as far as I know - behind the axle in all Escape designs, so filling it reduces the tongue weight; however, this is quite common in travel trailers.

Since the distance from fresh water tank to axle is much shorter than from coupler to axle, the change in tongue weight is a small fraction of the weight of the water. I can't remember is Escape's gallons are imperial or U.S., but in the worst case (imperial) that's 200 pounds of water, and thus a small change in tongue weight compared to the tongue weight of a 19'.

Some designs do have problems: one Bigfoot model was recalled to have a huge steel plate added to the tongue to fix balance problems under some loading conditions. I'm not aware of such an issue in any Escape, but I could have missed it.
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