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Old 11-13-2013, 10:53 PM   #71
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My head hurts thinking about all this... I think my brain is bleeding! I think I'm going to get one battery... the big one on the option list. No solar, no generator and if I ever decide to boondock, I'm going to park next to Jon V. and run over in the morning with my Mr. Coffee and plug into his exterior outlet!
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Old 11-13-2013, 10:56 PM   #72
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My head hurts thinking about all this... I think my brain is bleeding!
You took the words right out of my mouth! I'm learning as I go here, I'm just not learning very much or very quickly! j
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Old 11-13-2013, 11:56 PM   #73
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I think the way to simplify the whole discussion is to ask yourself how you plan (now or in the future) to use the trailer.

1. The WFCO Domestic Panel comes with a converter so is is really not up for discussion and you would want a converter in the trailer if you ever wanted to sell it in the future. If you want to upgrade the converter to a 4-stage unit then decide later. It is a bolt-in swap out that takes less than an hour.

2. The question regarding dual batteries and solar have to do exclusively with boon-docking. Are you going to do boon-docking or not? If so will it be for days at a time? If so you need more-than-normal battery capacity and a way to recharge those batteries while off-line; an extra battery and solar is a definite plus.

If you are ever in the future going with solar and you would want to roof-mount the panel(s) is is best to have Escape make the roof penetration and install the controller and a panel when you buy it new. Adding a second panel only requires installing a second roof mount with the second panel and then plugging it into the first panel; no roof penetration or anything else needed.

Note: I need to add that with the solar, batteries and inverter that I have I take great pride in never, ever needing to have to run a generator which for me is important.

I hope this helps!

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Thanks for breaking it down succinctly, Steve. I think you've got 4 X 6v, plus 2 x rooftop solars? pretty sweet.... j

For our camping, we will utilize the dual 6v and solar. Just trying to sort out the inverter and charger issues, and also I suppose I'm contemplating all the posts I've read which describe some of the stock wire gauges as inadequate. j
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Jamie, don't get too hung up about wire sizes. Escape uses 10 gauge wire from the solar panel(s) to the controller and then to the battery. You don't need bigger. Where you want big wire is if you are going to permanently install an inverter. Inverters like really big wire coming from the battery and the wires should be as short as possible. Mine are 3 gauge 3 feet long for my 2500 watt inverter. All other wires are reasonable size. Wires from the inverter to the trailer can be standard size wires run to the outlets.

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Thanks for breaking it down succinctly, Steve. I think you've got 4 X 6v, plus 2 x rooftop solars? pretty sweet.... j

For our camping, we will utilize the dual 6v and solar. Just trying to sort out the inverter and charger issues, and also I suppose I'm contemplating all the posts I've read which describe some of the stock wire gauges as inadequate. j
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For the wires from the batteries to the inverter.... Do you have to spec them out yourself (ask Escape to use larger wire) or, dose Escape upgrade to the 3 gauge themselves?
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The inverter specifications stated the supply wire sizes required based on wire length. 3 gauge was required for that wire length so I supplied that info to Reace and he accommodated me. The unterminated wires were run from the front box where my batteries are located to the power distribution area under the driver's side dinette seat; about a 3' run. I then installed the inverter myself at a later date and terminated the wires appropriately.

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For the wires from the batteries to the inverter.... Do you have to spec them out yourself (ask Escape to use larger wire) or, dose Escape upgrade to the 3 gauge themselves?
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Jamie, don't get too hung up about wire sizes. Escape uses 10 gauge wire from the solar panel(s) to the controller and then to the battery. You don't need bigger. Where you want big wire is if you are going to permanently install an inverter. Inverters like really big wire coming from the battery and the wires should be as short as possible. Mine are 3 gauge 3 feet long for my 2500 watt inverter. All other wires are reasonable size. Wires from the inverter to the trailer can be standard size wires run to the outlets.
Thanks very much for spending your time sharing your info. j
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My head hurts thinking about all this... I think my brain is bleeding! I think I'm going to get one battery... the big one on the option list. No solar, no generator and if I ever decide to boondock, I'm going to park next to Jon V. and run over in the morning with my Mr. Coffee and plug into his exterior outlet!
Are you absolutely sure that you do not want to boondock? You know you would do better with 6Vs for that. Also, if you ever need to take out the batteries for anything, 6Vs are a whopping 65-70 lbs. I hate to think about the 12Vs. A forklift would be nice. We have needed Jon a bunch of times and he is just never around!
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Hey, Hey, I'm on the road. There are a bunch of advantages to a pair of 6V batteries, however if you never dry camp the only one I can figure is to reduce tongue weight. That 130 lbs on the back bumper helps me keep the tongue weight within reason towing with a RAV4...

And, by the way Donna, you are welcome to plug into my outside receptacle when boondocking, however it won't do much good. I wired my inverter to a separate interior receptacle rather than installing a transfer relay. You will just have to stop by for coffee made inside!
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