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Old 02-07-2018, 01:22 PM   #1
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Additional stop/signal lights on 19?

I will be carrying bikes with a cover over them on the back of my new 19. Given that, I requested the additional brake/signal lights that I've seen in photos of previous generation 19s (vertically oriented on each side of rear window). I was advised by ETI that they no longer do those due to leakage problems. I realize that the outer clearance lights also serve as signal and brake lights but I'm still not sure that will be enough given the lower lights will be totally obscured. Has anyone had additional lights installed on the new gen 19? Thinking of appealing to ETI for alternate solution but thought I'd check with forum folks first :-)

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Old 02-07-2018, 02:40 PM   #2
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Carl,
Does ETI still offer an option to provide a 4 way plug wired out at the 2" receiver? We have one and it came in handy when we plugged in the lights on our Stowaway box. This would give you the flexibility to possibly add some extra lights on the bumper or out on the bike rack later if needed. The stock upper brake/signal lights on the newer 19 might keep you legal, but they seem awfully small and high for my personal taste.
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Old 02-07-2018, 02:54 PM   #3
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Carl,
Does ETI still offer an option to provide a 4 way plug wired out at the 2" receiver? We have one and it came in handy when we plugged in the lights on our Stowaway box. This would give you the flexibility to possibly add some extra lights on the bumper or out on the bike rack later if needed. The stock upper brake/signal lights on the newer 19 might keep you legal, but they seem awfully small and high for my personal taste.
A 4-pin plug at the rear is one of the alternatives I was going to propose to ETI if I can't get them to do the extra lights. Don't know if they still offer that but I will ask. I kind of feel the same way about the upper lights. Thanks!
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Old 02-07-2018, 03:08 PM   #4
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A 4-pin plug at the rear is one of the alternatives I was going to propose to ETI if I can't get them to do the extra lights. Don't know if they still offer that but I will ask.
Just make sure they wire it right or you will be under the back bed swapping two wires like me!

www.escapeforum.org/forums/f8/adding-after-market-front-storage-box-4007-6.html#post145608
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Old 02-07-2018, 03:13 PM   #5
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Just make sure they wire it right or you will be under the back bed swapping two wires like me!

www.escapeforum.org/forums/f8/adding-after-market-front-storage-box-4007-6.html#post145608
Hmmm... I will bring my little trailer plug tester with me when I pick up the trailer and, if it's wrong, I'll have them do the swapping :-)
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Old 02-07-2018, 03:16 PM   #6
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Hmmm... I will bring my little trailer plug tester with me when I pick up the trailer and, if it's wrong, I'll have them do the swapping :-)
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Old 02-07-2018, 05:02 PM   #7
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Hi CarlNH: I think ETI will still install upper signal/brake lights, they just don't use the long vertical ones because of warping and leaking problems. They mount smaller, more square lights horizontally above the back window. I had ETI install them on my 19 when I was in the area for the Osoyoos Rally in 2016. This may have changed- but you might want to at least check with them. I added them for the same reason you are thinking- mounting bikes on the back- and they are an added safety feature in my view.

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Old 02-07-2018, 05:27 PM   #8
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Hi CarlNH: I think ETI will still install upper signal/brake lights, they just don't use the long vertical ones because of warping and leaking problems. They mount smaller, more square lights horizontally above the back window. I had ETI install them on my 19 when I was in the area for the Osoyoos Rally in 2016. This may have changed- but you might want to at least check with them. I added them for the same reason you are thinking- mounting bikes on the back- and they are an added safety feature in my view.

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That would be great! Do you happen to have a photo of yours that I could show them as an example of what I want?

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Old 02-07-2018, 05:43 PM   #9
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They do provide upper stop/signal lights as standard on th new 19. Were you thinking you wanted sometjing larger. I misunderstood. I think the ones I installed are the ones being used on the new 19. I also think they are very visible. My unit had the lower lights only and they would be mostly obscured by bikes on the back. The upper lights solve the issue in my view. My unit is still in storage- but if I can get at it, I will send a picture this weekend.

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Old 02-07-2018, 06:04 PM   #10
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They do provide upper stop/signal lights as standard on th new 19. Were you thinking you wanted sometjing larger. I misunderstood. I think the ones I installed are the ones being used on the new 19. I also think they are very visible. My unit had the lower lights only and they would be mostly obscured by bikes on the back. The upper lights solve the issue in my view. My unit is still in storage- but if I can get at it, I will send a picture this weekend.

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Oh, OK, if you have the upper lights that are now standard, no need to get to it for a photo! Good to hear that you feel the high mounted lights are adequate. I just wasn't sure they would be visible enough given how high they are mounted. That is why the input from experience Escapees like yourself is so valuable!

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