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07-13-2018, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike G
Hmmm. I didn't know that. How far do they open? Anyone care to post a photo of an awning window opened to the max? I'd like to see.
I'd just assumed they would open to perhaps a 40 or 45 degree angle, like some of the jalousies I'm familiar with.
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The frameless windows (except for the kitchen window) are hinged from the top. If they were allowed to open out that far it would mean water getting in with only a little rain. Since the kitchen window is hinged only on the bottom third, it can open out at a greater angle and still not pose a problem.
As for the cross ventilation, I agree with Pat that the sliders offer more, but several friends with the frameless awning style windows report that the cross ventilation is fine.
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07-13-2018, 02:42 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
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I think the area around the window when open would be close to the square inches of the slider when open. However the awning style does block the wind/breeze.
They open aprox 3 inches with a twist of a knob.
I have to come up with something as I fear that someone is going to lean on my door when it is almost fully open and crush the window beside it.
Here are your photos.
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07-13-2018, 02:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Port Townsend, Washington
Trailer: 2010 17B “MATT”, then 2017 19 “Lilly”
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Awning & window changes
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Originally Posted by Eggscape
I have to come up with something as I fear that someone is going to lean on my door when it is almost fully open and crush the window beside it.
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Solution:
 
RV Designer E239 White 10" T-Style... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002UC8OWM?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
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07-13-2018, 03:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Tehachapi, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eggscape
I have to come up with something as I fear that someone is going to lean on my door when it is almost fully open and crush the window beside it.
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I think that is the reason HiLo put the one and only slider on the trailer where the entry door opens, to avoid that issue. It's the window just forward of the door in this photo.
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Formerly owned a 2007 24' HiLo/ 2003 Tahoe combo. Interested in the 5.0TA
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07-13-2018, 03:27 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 2013 19' & 2013 15B
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eggscape
...I have to come up with something as I fear that someone is going to lean on my door when it is almost fully open and crush the window beside it.
Here are your photos.
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Maybe the answer is a rollup door for your Escape?
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07-13-2018, 03:43 PM
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#66
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: WI, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 5.0 TA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Walter
Maybe the answer is a rollup door for your Escape?
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Does that door include an upgraded step? 
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07-13-2018, 04:13 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: West Coast, Florida
Trailer: None now
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Walter
Maybe the answer is a rollup door for your Escape?
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I have one of those doors.
You have to be very careful if you do not raise it all the way up.
Just like the escape door mine has knocked the bark off the top of my head a couple times.
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07-13-2018, 04:55 PM
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#68
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Naugatuck, Connecticut
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Walter
Maybe the answer is a rollup door for your Escape?
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Good for keeping Bears out too😂
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07-13-2018, 04:58 PM
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#69
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2018 Escape 19
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I would presume that ETI will make it easy on everybody and only offer the black frames on the sliders as in the past and as on the Bigfoot and not the choice of white frames as with the Oliver. 
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07-13-2018, 07:03 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike G
Hmmm. I didn't know that. How far do they open? Anyone care to post a photo of an awning window opened to the max? I'd like to see.
I'd just assumed they would open to perhaps a 40 or 45 degree angle, like some of the jalousies I'm familiar with.
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Mike about 3 in . To really experience the amount of air flow you will get , go to a RV dealer on a hot day , sit in RV's with both awning windows and sliders that will give you your answer . Pat
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07-13-2018, 07:13 PM
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#71
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
Mike about 3 in . To really experience the amount of air flow you will get , go to a RV dealer on a hot day , sit in RV's with both awning windows and sliders that will give you your answer . Pat
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Then do the same, on a hot day, while it is raining and see how much air only you get....from both types of windows. Besides, most trailers these days are frameless, maybe hard to find the older slider style....
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07-13-2018, 07:28 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Then do the same, on a hot day, while it is raining and see how much air only you get....from both types of windows. Besides, most trailers these days are frameless, maybe hard to find the older slider style....
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Have . Really just looked at a 2018 24 ft loaded Forester Class C 2 days ago , just one at our RV dealer . One of the items that attracted us . Many manufacturers still use . Pat
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07-15-2018, 04:42 AM
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Vonore, Tennessee
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21 - "Here We Go Again"
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We are in the process of finalizing our build sheet for a 21" due in November.
We were quite surprised to see that ETI will no longer be offering the power awning and the frameless insulated windows in 2019. We were considering changing these features on our new trailer and have thought long and hard about our decision.
We had a power awning on another trailer and really loved it. It was convenient (no getting up in the middle of the night because of a storm and struggling to get the awning rolled in before it was damaged) and ease of use (DW could easily extend or retract awning with the touch of a button). We have also learned that use of any awning may or may not be weather dependent - when in doubt, bring it it.
As for the windows. We currently own a 17' Casita with the slider windows. If there was one thing we would change, the windows would be it. Sliders are great for cross ventilation, but useless in even a light rain (some ventilation is still good in those situations).
After discussing our concerns with our rep at ETI and reading comments from other owners, we have decided to stick with the current offerings (power awning and frameless awning type windows).
We believe that the Escape trailers are a quality built product and have faith in the customer service and integrity of ETI to assist with any problems that may occur.
We will be taking delivery of our new trailer in November. Maybe we will see some of you on the road in our future travels. You will know us by our tagline on the back of the trailer: "Here We Go Again!". 
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07-15-2018, 06:56 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
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I agree with you you Gary and I too have decided to stick with the power awning and frameless windows, they make the trailer look so sleek and I had no issues with them on my 2016 E19.
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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07-15-2018, 03:10 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Woodland, California
Trailer: 2019 F150 eco boost with 2017 5.0 TA in tow
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Does anyone know why ETI is going to discontinue the power awning and frameless windows? So far, Ilove them both.
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07-15-2018, 08:18 PM
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Join Date: May 2013
Location: ..., New Mexico
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I like my old style slider windows and my old, manual awning. Just don't see what's the fuss about them. Seems like a tempest in a teapot.
When it's hot and rains and I need circulation I open the (it's a big awning) escape window. On the other side if rain enters through the sliders I can pull out my manual awning to create a shield. (Have never needed to.) Do like my sliders. If dry camping I got a nice quiet little $6dollar Wally-fan, battery power.
Forrest gump once told me, "...beauty is as beauty does, Bubba." 
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07-15-2018, 08:43 PM
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#77
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21 towed by F-150 with 2.7l eb, formerly Escape 17B 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL
I like my old style slider windows and my old, manual awning. Just don't see what's the fuss about them. Seems like a tempest in a teapot.
When it's hot and rains and I need circulation I open the (it's a big awning) escape window. On the other side if rain enters through the sliders I can pull out my manual awning to create a shield. (Have never needed to.) Do like my sliders. If dry camping I got a nice quiet little $6dollar Wally-fan, battery power.
Forrest gump once told me, "...beauty is as beauty does, Bubba." |
Myron, that maybe, but the frameless windows are really nice, I mean really, really nice to look at and we love the awning style.
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07-15-2018, 08:49 PM
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#78
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris & Patricia
Myron, that maybe, but the frameless windows are really nice, I mean really, really nice to look at and we love the awning style.
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Agreed. After having both I very much prefer the frameless awning for looks and for function.
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07-15-2018, 08:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Port Townsend, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
Agreed. After having both I very much prefer the frameless awning for looks and for function.
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Also agreed after also having had both.
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07-15-2018, 09:03 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL
I like my old style slider windows and my old, manual awning. Just don't see what's the fuss about them. Seems like a tempest in a teapot.
When it's hot and rains and I need circulation I open the (it's a big awning) escape window. On the other side if rain enters through the sliders I can pull out my manual awning to create a shield. (Have never needed to.) Do like my sliders. If dry camping I got a nice quiet little $6dollar Wally-fan, battery power.
Forrest gump once told me, "...beauty is as beauty does, Bubba." |
We are with you Myron  even though the Escape and kitchen are awning windows we can live with those . Pat
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