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Old 05-17-2016, 01:45 PM   #71
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Haven't a clue how the stock blinds would look without a valence. Take one of the photos off this site, photoshop it without one and see how it looks!
Or one could just get one of the folks with a trailer built before they started adding them a few years ago. I am not sure when they started adding them though. I never had them in my 19, though do think they make a nice finishing touch.
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Old 05-17-2016, 01:49 PM   #72
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Oh, didn't realize that was a recent addition to the trailers. Yeah, that would be much easier, huh?
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Old 05-17-2016, 02:19 PM   #73
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Here is how the 2005 17b came with the aluminum blinds
The second picture is the Closed cell cordless blinds we added which Sarandipity is now enjoying... You'll notice the loops screwed under the frame at the bottom are how the blinds were held close to the window when closed.
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Old 05-17-2016, 02:20 PM   #74
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gbaglo just posted photos of his lack of valances here: Photo no valance? Photo black fabric valance?
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Old 05-17-2016, 04:33 PM   #75
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My white belly band is just a white vinyl tape like insert in the track that goes around the trailer and covers the seam. (I've seen black, white and tan.) It is easily changed. However, not having seen the latest..the arrangement may be very different from 2009.
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Old 05-17-2016, 05:27 PM   #76
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It is certainly good to know with certainty which of the heat sources is active.

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Yes, the propane is 12v operated.
It might be more clear to say that the propane-fired operation of the heater is controlled by 12V DC power. The (optional) 120V AC heating element might also be controlled by 12V DC, but I didn't check.

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Then once it gets hot you can turn on the electric to keep it warm. A lot quicker than using the electric to heat the water.
With a genuine OEM electric heating element (not one of those add-on "Hot Rod" things) you should be able to leave both propane and electric heat on at the same time, for even faster heating; that means leaving the electric element on all the time, except when the water is drained, is quite practical... maybe that's why Suburban thinks the poorly accessible and not visible switch is okay.

Electric-only works fine, but when hot water is used electric-only doesn't recover to the set temperature as quickly, because the electric heating element is not as powerful as the propane burner (that would take too much power for RVs that typically use these water heaters).
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:20 AM   #77
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Rookie question, but just to be sure - if you choose to delete a standard feature, do you get a credit or rebate of some kind? Makes sense you would. And if so, is there somewhere on the Escape website where those credit/rebate values are listed? For example, what if you choose not to get the range hood in the 21? We've not seen an actual build sheet yet, so we're just going off the list of add options and their prices listed on the website, and we don't see a "delete" option list with values. Just curious....
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:29 AM   #78
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No credit, just a "delete" and instead there is a light installed. My current 2017 build sheet reflects this policy.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:35 AM   #79
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Rookie question, but just to be sure - if you choose to delete a standard feature, do you get a credit or rebate of some kind? Makes sense you would. And if so, is there somewhere on the Escape website where those credit/rebate values are listed? For example, what if you choose not to get the range hood in the 21? We've not seen an actual build sheet yet, so we're just going off the list of add options and their prices listed on the website, and we don't see a "delete" option list with values. Just curious....
It depends on what you get removed from the build sheet and not everything can be removed. The credits aren't listed on their site. You pretty much have to comb through this forum for some of that information. And, of course, ETI will tell you if there's a credit (or not) for something that's been deleted, as some of that might have changed from when a customer did that.

There isn't a credit if you don't get the range hood installed; least there wasn't when I looked into that option.

For example, on the build sheet for our trailer, this is what we deleted and if there's a credit, I listed it after the item:

stove cover, n/c (no credit)
shelf over bed, n/c
bathroom sink, n/c
mattress, $150 credit
day shades (we're going with cellular shades we install ourselves), $125
valences, $50 ($10 per window valence)
graphics, $100
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Very helpful. Thanks, all.....
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