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Old 07-10-2016, 01:30 PM   #21
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its seems in Texas they don't give tickets for this since so many vehicles are driving with stingers and no trailer...guess keeping track of all the various laws in each state as it pertains to towing an rv is going to be a constant headache....


Well, they don't give tickets because there's no law against it.


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Old 07-10-2016, 01:34 PM   #22
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In the event of a rear end collision, a stinger will penetrate the bumper of the rear vehicle and cause more damage than a collision in which the bumpers meet. That could also be part of their rationale. But, it's true that many state governments never met a new law or fine they didn't like.


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laughing a bit thinking of old cars with real heavy bumpers that could take a collision in style....today about the only vehicle with anything that might actually have something similar to a real bumper is a truck!
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Old 07-10-2016, 02:08 PM   #23
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After a bunch of years now of having first the Andersen WDH, and now the Andersen Ultimate Fifth Wheel hitch, I have been forever converted to nylon balls, to avoid messy grease.
I get the advantage of the greaseless nylon-capped ball, but both the Andersen No-Sway WD and the Andersen Ultimate 5th Wheel Solution have special aluminum balls, neither of which is greaseless, right? The Ultimate is greaseless, because the coupler has a nylon insert; that would be a nice feature, and a nylon-capped ball with a conventional coupler would be similar.

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Sounds interesting, but don't you still need to grease the coupler which would then get grease on the nylon?
No. The mechanism in most hitches doesn't need much if any grease - it's only used in there to cut wear between the socket of the coupler and the ball; the nylon cap on the ball eliminates that.
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Old 07-10-2016, 02:12 PM   #24
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laughing a bit thinking of old cars with real heavy bumpers that could take a collision in style....today about the only vehicle with anything that might actually have something similar to a real bumper is a truck!
Pickup trucks don't have rigid bumpers either. Even our 1980 Chevy pickup had a thin steel outer bumper which had no meaningful support outboard of the frame mounts; a Toyota Truck (back before they called them "Tacoma") rear ended us (corner-to-corner) and folded the end of our bumper.

The old bumpers could "take" a collision, but they didn't absorb energy so collisions were jarring. You can't meet current safety requirements that way.

It is currently popular to fit massive steel bumpers to some styles of pickup trucks and SUVs, ostensibly for better approach and departure clearance off-road. Those things are presumably rigid.
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Old 07-10-2016, 02:20 PM   #25
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Probably something to do with having something extend beyond the normal dimensions of the vehicle and bumper. It is not flagged or equipped with warning lights... Just guessing, but probably in the Vehicle Code.....
Yes, I think so. Very easy to hit a ball mount because it is not seen. Also, one will likely hit someone else with it when backing.

In Texas now and anything that extends four feet behind the vehicle must be marked. I have seen the same 4' used in other states. Many ball mounts do not extend 4'. Some do maybe. We remove ours for the above reasons. Some states do prohibit them.

A couple prohibit keeping towing mirrors on when not towing. It seems that about all states require towing mirrors for towing or at least a lot of them.
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Old 07-10-2016, 02:30 PM   #26
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With this, Andersen is one company that has stepped to the plate with their full adjustable Rapid Hitch. I don't imagine it would work with most of the WDHs out there though.
https://www.andersenhitches.com/Cata...pid-hitch.aspx
I've never seen a WD head using aluminum components, but it could be done. On the other hand, those shear pins probably wouldn't cut it; Andersen's No-Sway WD racks are based on their EZ HD Hitch - their steel adjustable hitch rather than the aluminum Rapid Hitch - but must be used with bolts and not the pins.
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Never heard of anyone actually getting a ticket for it.
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This made me curious about legality issue. I couldn't find anything about Canada, and this was about the best I could find for the US:
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This made me curious about legality issue. I couldn't find anything about Canada, and this was about the best I could find for the US:
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Yes, a ball mount would obscure the license plate which is probably covered just about everywhere.

Edit: Oh, no, does not obscure it but I do see many obscured with other things.

It is likely legal to keep it on but may cause the owner a problem. I remember Glenn saying that a car manual may say not to.
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Yes, a ball mount would obscure the license plate which is probably covered just about everywhere.
Not at all, at least on mine.
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