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Old 07-03-2016, 10:02 PM   #121
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Another recent news article I read said the Canadian Camping Adventures has 2 staff who book/buy sites on behalf of their clients.
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Old 07-03-2016, 10:07 PM   #122
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So as a newly retired BC resident looking for a project perhaps I can assist any of my out of country Escape Forum members (US) with their BC camping reservations.

Or perhaps I'll turn into the cranky retired dude who sends endless emails/letters to the elected officials and government workers within the system trying to get something changed.

(But I think I am done posting about this on our Forum. Unless I discover some real interesting tidbit of info.

I suspect not much will change, given the amount of money overseas tourists bring into BC
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Old 07-03-2016, 10:25 PM   #123
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Old 07-03-2016, 10:45 PM   #124
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Van der Kraats said his company is not the problem; he books sites online the same way as everyone else.

"I do realize the frustration, it's just, it's not us making this happen," he said.

"We are just like everybody else. We just make some bookings, and if we can't book them, we book them somewhere else."
This is what is called disingenuous in polite circles, and stupid in more frank terms. Yes, it's the same website that we use, but the rest of us are not speculatively booking to keep those sites from people who will actually use them, and are not blatantly violating the BC Parks rules regarding transferring reservations. If they believe what they say then they are morons; if they understand how it is wrong then they are at the very least dishonest.

One more company that I would refuse to do business with.
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This makes perfect sense to me. The weekend rush out of Toronto got so bad that the exodus was starting early Thursday afternoon. That wasn't primarily a campground issue - it was people trying to avoid traffic.
For more than two decades now similar things have been happening in Alberta. A lot of people who love to head to the Forestry Campgrounds for any long weekend, actually take the time to haul their trailer out a few days before, park it there and just pay for the extra days to hold their favourite spots. This is one thing that led to my brothers and I finding a spot where we can camp during long weekends with no hassles. Heck, we were drinking Scotch and playing guitar until 2am one night, which nary a single complaint. Heck, even the 'yotes joined in.

We do hit these Forestry, as well as some provincial CGs during the week, or on non-long weekends.
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Old 07-04-2016, 04:59 PM   #126
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Demand Exceeds Supply

The BC Provincial Parks front country camping, hasn't expanded any park (that I know of), in 20+ years. At the same time, the population has grown, and the large surge of baby-boomers is retiring. Additionally the the number of tourists never seems to decrease.
I'd like to see an increase in the number of quality front country camping spots.

We use to camp at Forest Service Sites but too often people move into them on the May long weekend and stay until Thanksgiving because they are more entitled than me.
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As for the statistics, if a private BC company is booking sites in BC Parks for foreign tourists, is the booking measured as BC residents or from elsewhere...?
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Today's cartoon from our local community newspaper:
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Today's cartoon from our local community newspaper:
I just did that for a three day weekend on my Mom's driveway.......complete with awning, camp chairs, BBQ, and beer.....created a lot of neighbor envy!!
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Today's cartoon from our local community newspaper:
When the scarcity of campsites becomes the subject of newspaper cartoons, it's time to change the system. Just an opinion.
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When the scarcity of campsites becomes the subject of newspaper cartoons, it's time to change the system. Just an opinion.
Sure, but if the province announces a plan to develop more area in parks to create campsites, and spend tens of millions of dollars on it, I expect there will be a big backlash. There is no easy answer, and no clear balancing point between the extremes of having campsites always in use but most people unable to get sites when they want them, and paying a fortune to have so many campsites that they are always available when wanted but most are empty most of the time.
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