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Old 08-02-2015, 10:34 AM   #31
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I think the 5th wheel hookup/unhook is a bit easier and quicker, but that's not as important as having the unit you want. Hookup and unhook is only a few minutes either way.
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I have to go along with probably a little easier and faster but not that much difference over all
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Old 08-02-2015, 10:45 AM   #32
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Sorry group. I find a bumper pull a whole bunch easier/faster to hookup. Especially if you have a tailgate camera. But, then again... I'm a solo traveler and perhaps that makes it just different for me.

To begin with, Dennis warned me to not drag the front leg landing gear. That's a lot of down force weight from the loft. And, the electrics won't handle much. So, the kingpin needs to be nearly dead on to the hitch. For me, that means getting out and standing under the loft and looking.. sometimes a bunch of times. With the tailgate down, I only have about 2" clearance to the trailer, that means the truck has to be straight, really straight. I have the 6.5 bed F-150. Just some more things to consider.
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I dunno Donna, when the partner stands behind the trailer where they can't be seen in the mirrors and then finally moves into view and starts all the undecipherable hand waving and shouting you might ultimately be faster solo.
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You might be right Donna - if the tow has a nice backup camera like ours do. I use the zoom button once I get close and after doing it several times previously, I can get the receiver in the exact position (just barely front of center so the ball slips in as its lowered) the first time. The centerline marker is great too.
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Very interesting post Donna much food for thought . I have never hitched a fifth wheel trailers or pulled one so your the expert here. Donna when you say that you only have two inches of clearance with the tailgate down. Are you saying that your tailgate is only two inches from hitting the front of you 5.0 TA? I wonder if that's why a lot of pickup trucks that tow fifth wheel trailers have the smaller custom tailgates?

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Old 08-02-2015, 02:38 PM   #36
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Very interesting post Donna much food for thought . I have never hitched a fifth wheel trailers or pulled one so your the expert here. Donna when you say that you only have two inches of clearance with the tailgate down. Are you saying that your tailgate is only two inches from hitting the front of you 5.0 TA? I wonder if that's why a lot of pickup trucks that tow fifth wheel trailers have the smaller custom tailgates?

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Yes Mark. About 2" when the tailgate is down from hitting the front of the trailer.

My truck is my daily driver, the hitch is always in the bed of the truck (too heavy for me to want to put it in and out!) and I have the G2 Bakflip tonneau. I wouldn't want to fool with a custom tailgate either... Most of the custom tailgates I've seen just have the notch cut of the middle, or are made of web material.

Hooking the 5er isn't difficult, just tedious. As I said though, I wouldn't call it easier or quicker than a bumper pull.

Now, if I could move the tailgate camera to the top of the cab, that would be NEATO! I'm sure I can purchase an aftermarket camera and may look into that in the future.
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Donna,
Wow two inches from the tailgate to the front of you 5.0 TA doesn't give you muchwiggle room. I would definitely look into the second reverse camera in the bed of your truck.
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Wow two inches from the tailgate to the front of you 5.0 TA doesn't give you muchwiggle room. I would definitely look into the second reverse camera in the bed of your truck.
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I deal with 1/72" measurements all day long on my job. I'm pretty good at estimating. Haven't hit Ten Forward yet (KNOCK ON WOOD ). However, it's not for the faint of heart...

I'll take a picture next time I'm out.

Actually, lower the tailgate, backup until the hitch/kingpin clear the tailgate area when closed, close the tailgate and continue backing up "CLANG". Hooked up.
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I have also taken note that where two or more people are involved in hooking up a tow vehicle, there is a whole lot of yelling and waving going on. Loren
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I think the 5th wheel hookup/unhook is a bit easier and quicker, but that's not as important as having the unit you want. Hookup and unhook is only a few minutes either way.
Perhaps true... for those who physically have no problem with bending down and dealing with WD hardware and safety chains, neither of which are used with a fifth-wheel.

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Donna when you say that you only have two inches of clearance with the tailgate down. Are you saying that your tailgate is only two inches from hitting the front of you 5.0 TA? I wonder if that's why a lot of pickup trucks that tow fifth wheel trailers have the smaller custom tailgates?
Perhaps. The typical fifth-wheel tailgate isn't actually smaller, it just has a notch in the middle so it can be left up and the truck backed under the trailer - the notch allows the pin to pass into the box area. It could be due to issues with clearance when the tailgate is down, but it could be just to save the effort of putting the tailgate down and back up again during the hitching or unhitching sequence.

Some people put the tailgate down, back in until the pinbox is in the truck box, put the tailgate back up, then finish backing in. This is done because they are even more squeezed for clearance than Donna - this can happen with the Scamp 19', which is a ball-hitch trailer of the same general configuration as an Escape 5.0, but shorter from lower body to hitch.

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I have the G2 Bakflip tonneau.
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I'm sure I can purchase an aftermarket camera and may look into that in the future.
Donna, does the tonneau block your view of the hitch, causing the alignment challenge?
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