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Old 09-30-2016, 03:33 PM   #11
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Is there any significant difference between the Escape 17 & 19 ? ... Just the two of us with our two miniture Schnauzers ...
We have a "classic" 17B and are very happy with it. That being said, a week ago we stop in at ETI on our way through Chilliwack to look at the new models. Because of the changes to the 17B it felt a lot tighter inside, they made the bed a bit wider which takes away some of the floor space. Also the new fridges seem a bit deeper, making the isle way narrower. I didn't bring a tape to actually measure the difference, but both my wife and I felt much more crowded than we do in our "classic". If I were to buy now I would go for the 19. That's just my 2 cents and as they say "your mileage may vary".
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Old 09-30-2016, 05:31 PM   #12
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We camp with my buddy and his wife. He has a 19 and I have a 17B. When it's cool or wet, we end up playing cards or eating dinner in his 19 with the four-person dinette.
If you are camping with dogs, you might prefer some extra space ( pic is front dinette in 17B )

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Old 09-30-2016, 06:02 PM   #13
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We have a "classic" 17B and are very happy with it. That being said, a week ago we stop in at ETI on our way through Chilliwack to look at the new models. Because of the changes to the 17B it felt a lot tighter inside, they made the bed a bit wider which takes away some of the floor space. Also the new fridges seem a bit deeper, making the isle way narrower. I didn't bring a tape to actually measure the difference, but both my wife and I felt much more crowded than we do in our "classic". If I were to buy now I would go for the 19. That's just my 2 cents and as they say "your mileage may vary".
Also because the door is now straight without the curve , it does look to be narrower even if the width is increased . Pat
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Old 09-30-2016, 09:08 PM   #14
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Sunrisetrucker, you're scaring me! I was in Chilliwack a year ago and after much "sitting and perusing" decided to go with the 17B. It's due in April. Perhaps I should consider a revisit if you feel there's that much difference between the '16s and '17s.

I strongly agree that the 17 and 19 trailers have completely different "feels". The 19 reminded me more of a 23' "stickie" I owned previously, while the 17 felt more like my old 13' Boler - kind of "cave-like", but in a good and cozy way. Just me and 3 dogs, so hopefully the 17B will be ok.
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Old 09-30-2016, 09:17 PM   #15
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Sunrisetrucker, you're scaring me! I was in Chilliwack a year ago and after much "sitting and perusing" decided to go with the 17B. It's due in April. Perhaps I should consider a revisit if you feel there's that much difference between the '16s and '17s.
Yeah, but that was long enough ago that you won't feel the difference, I'm sure. It'll feel just right to you since you won't have the comparison time that current owners would have.
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Old 10-01-2016, 12:37 AM   #16
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Remember that there are 2 aisle widths for the 17B. With the 4 cu ft fridge upgrade you lose 4". Maybe you were looking at that one?

I'm not too worried about our 17B order. We are omitting the wardrobe to give us more seating space for our dog that likes to sleep on the dinette bench.

The wider bed is definitely a bonus for us as well when comparing with the classic design. Nobody knows for sure, but it makes sense that the extra bed space was actually due to the non-sloping walls in the 2017 model. It's only 3" deeper, and if you make the front and back walls vertical you will certainly pick up 3" to give to the dinette/bed. That's my theory at least.

I doubt this will be our last Escape. Sometime down the road they will probably make significant upgrades and improvements and we can upgrade to a bigger one.
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Still debating between the two fridge sizes, too...
Does anyone know if the freezers are the same size in each? I haven't been able to find that anywhere, including the Dometic website. (Sorry - didn't mean to hijack the thread)
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(snip) The wider bed is definitely a bonus for us as well when comparing with the classic design. Nobody knows for sure, but it makes sense that the extra bed space was actually due to the non-sloping walls in the 2017 model. It's only 3" deeper, and if you make the front and back walls vertical you will certainly pick up 3" to give to the dinette/bed. That's my theory at least
When I was at ETI a few months back with one of my cellular shades to see how they'd look against the new frameless windows, Reace helped me and took me inside a trailer that was in production. He commented that the front and back walls are still curved, so the blinds would hang out a bit, as opposed to hanging straight on the windows on the side walls. and yeah, the blind did hang out when I put it against the front window on the 19 that I was inside of.
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Old 10-01-2016, 11:43 AM   #19
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Jude,
We have a 17A (no bathroom; porta-potty in cabinet under the permanent bed).
For our style of camping , it works.
We had several criteria that led us to pick the 17, even though the only Escape we had actually looked at was PatandLinda's 19.
We wanted a fulltime bed with thick mattress (for my bad, and now old, back). The 17A mattress is an 8" queen, and very comfortable.
We wanted to be able to sleep four on occasion (mostly when weather dictates), to accommodate another couple we fish and explore with.
We are former tent campers who are used to using campground restrooms ( and then the portapotty at night ).
We are mostly outside; we're in the trailer to sleep, and hide from weather.
We wanted to park the trailer next to our garage, and the 19's coupler would have been only a couple inches behind the public sidewalk. The 19 is about 2 feet longer than the 17.
We have a Honda Pilot, with a tow rating of 3500 lbs. The 17A dry weight is a bit over 2100 lbs. Add our gear, full propane and water, tools, musical instruments, etc., and we're at about 2700 lbs±, which is almost 80% of capacity; perfect.
[ Important note though: don't let the tow vehicle dictate your choice; tow vehicles get replaced, but your Escape, with due care, will last for decades and decades)
So, the 17A works for us. If we had more room to park it, we might have considered the 19 a little more seriously.
By all means, do as others have suggested, contact ETI, and get some names of Escape owners who will show you their Escapes, and give their run-down on why their choice was perfect for them.
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