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Old 04-17-2016, 12:11 PM   #31
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The prototype and maybe a few others had the furnace under the bed, but most had it in the dinette drivers side bench about 4" off the floor near fridge. The move to the drawer stack was due to the old unit being discontinued and the present model being too big to fit back there.
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Old 04-17-2016, 12:14 PM   #32
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It is my understanding that the propane furnace used to be under the bed on the 21' but it is now in the drawer stack (as of 2016)

however interior pics of the 2017 21' have not been posted quite yet, so this might change yet again.

The furnance model changed and Reace couldn't fit it under the dinette driver side of the recent 21 builds. Whether the squaring of the tub will allow dinette placement again is a question mark.

Edit: what Ross said.
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Old 04-17-2016, 12:23 PM   #33
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....Whether the squaring of the tub will allow dinette placement again is a question mark.
I am excited to see the 21' 2017 interior pics, when they are posted..... soon-ish

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The furnace will remain in the drawer stack in the 21 and not under the bed as it was felt that bedding would interfere with it's operation.
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Old 04-17-2016, 04:36 PM   #35
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The furnance model changed and Reace couldn't fit it under the dinette driver side of the recent 21 builds. Whether the squaring of the tub will allow dinette placement again is a question mark.
Interesting point - I suppose the dinette fit issue for the new AFSAD12 model was the depth (front to back, which is dinette bench face to exterior wall). It was never clear to me what dimension was an issue, because there were mentions of height but the new AFSAD12 is lower than the old 8012.

Unfortunately, the morons who run the Atwood web sites (atwoodmobile.com and askforatwood.com) are still showing the old model and not the new one. The downloadable furnace catalog is from 2007! It's hard to imagine any other business in which your published catalog can be years out of date without going bankrupt... but this is the RV world so it's okay.

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The furnace will remain in the drawer stack in the 21 and not under the bed as it was felt that bedding would interfere with it's operation.
I agree that the logic of avoiding under-bed placement has not changed.

To me, the middle of the trailer seems like an inherently better location that stuck in the far back end, anyway.
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Old 04-17-2016, 04:51 PM   #36
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Difference is 5 feet. Wanna bet where most would put it if they had a choice?

A. Leave it where it is and be closer to the bed where you use it much less
than at the dinette, particularly in the morning.
B. Move it to the back and get the drawers back and if you do want it on at night it
heats the trailer up more than you want and have to limit it with thermostat and
is quieter to those sleeping being located in the rear.
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Never had the 21 with a heater in the dinette, but I remember one model trailer where they did that and it was "hot leg" very uncomfortable when sitting at the table for meals etc.
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Never had that problem and have never read about it on this Forum either.
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Old 04-17-2016, 05:21 PM   #39
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Difference is 5 feet.
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B. Move it to the back and get the drawers back and if you do want it on at night it heats the trailer up more than you want and have to limit it with thermostat and is quieter to those sleeping being located in the rear.
This assumes that only the permanent bed in the front is being used for sleeping - true for many owners, but not all... and is that five feet now more important for noise than it was for airflow?

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Never had the 21 with a heater in the dinette, but I remember one model trailer where they did that and it was "hot leg" very uncomfortable when sitting at the table for meals etc.
That's one potential issue. The other is a lack of proper airflow when the dinette is in bed mode.

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Never had that problem and have never read about it on this Forum either.
It would only be a problem if actually using the furnace, and most owners are south of where they would often need it.

Anyone buying a new-style 21' could ask Escape if the dinette location is again a possibility... if they would prefer that.
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Old 04-17-2016, 05:48 PM   #40
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Don't want to rehash this whole 21 heater thing again - Brian expressed an opinion about location and I offered mine as a real-world user of it. One can talk in theory about things but I like first hand experience when evaluating. The dinette as a bed has zero effect on heating the rest of the trailer and yes it naturally is noisier there for the occupant than 5 feet away.
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