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Old 02-09-2016, 08:33 PM   #41
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I had a Reece Pro Series slider hitch installed in my Ranger with 6" box pulling a 5.0 Classic and it was installed in Chilliwack to Reace's specifications, the center of the hitch 29" back from the rear of the cab which put the center of the hitch in front of the rear axle. I never once had to use the slider for the three years it was in the truck. Last year I put a Curt Q16 in the truck which I bought online for $479 Cdn. I went with the Curt because the slider type jaw of the Reece Pro Series I had was way too loose considering the weight of the pin of the trailer and the pin moved around all the time while driving. The Curt has the locking type jaws and is way quieter with no movement over bumps and while braking.

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Old 02-09-2016, 08:35 PM   #42
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I don’t see how folks with shorter beds and non-sliders get away with it, unless they are mounting the hitches behind the axles.
I believe that at least one Escape owner does have the pin behind the axle line.

The Scamp 19' has a ball hitch (not a fifth-wheel) but it is the same style of trailer (loft sitting over the truck bed, hitched in the bed), and is about the size of the Escape 5.0. Scamp 19' owners have towed them with the Explorer Sport Trac, which is a smaller truck which was available only with a crew cab and with a relatively short wheelbase, so it had a box just over four feet long, with a cab-to-axle length of only about 16 inches, so the hitch is necessarily centred well behind the axle... which has proven to work fine as long as "pin weight" is not too high.
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Old 02-09-2016, 08:42 PM   #43
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Jim, I thought you were thinking of the Andersen Ultimate? Can't you just turn that around for extra length? All I know, that be it diesel or gas any future truck that I own will have at least a 6.5' bed to tow my "old school classic". Scott

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I do have the 6.5 bed now, with the 5.7 hem and 8 speed transmission.
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Old 02-09-2016, 08:45 PM   #44
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That sounds interesting and much less expensive. I assume Bruce is on the forum?
yes he is page #2 of the "B" under "community"
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Old 02-09-2016, 08:52 PM   #45
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I do have the 6.5 bed now, with the 5.7 hem and 8 speed transmission.
That's what I thought, why the slider? Scott

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Old 02-09-2016, 08:59 PM   #46
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That's a lot of money and weight for equipment. As others are suggesting, it seems like a slider is not needed with your 6.5' box, especially if you use one of the hitches which can be set back a few inches from the standard position.
If I was no concerned with the ability to have a flat bed when not towing, I would have just used rails with the Andersen to save a fair bit of weight. Those sliders do add more. I guess it all depends on how big of a vehicle you want to use.

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The frame of the Andersen Ultimate positions the ball ahead of or behind the rail centre (or the ball in the bed floor in the case of the version that is anchored that way); yes, Andersen suggests mounting it with the ball to the rear in short-bed trucks.
Another adjustment you can make with the Andersen hitch, though it would work against the clearance we are trying to achieve here, is that the pin coupler can be reversed too.

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You may be thinking of the other Jim (Bennett), who I believe has an Andersen Ultimate waiting for his 5.0TA.
Yes, my truck is pretty much fully outfitted just waiting for a trailer to pull, including;
B&W Turnover Ball Gooseneck Hitch
Aluminum Ultimate 5th Wheel Connection–Gooseneck version with Ultimate Safety Chains

I also added;
5th Wheel/Gooseneck 90-Degree Wiring Harness for easier connection of the trailer wiring harness.
Line-X Bedliner
Fold-a-Cover G4 Elite tonneau cover with a Personal Caddy Toolbox
3M Protection
Covercraft Carhartt Seat Covers front and rear (for dog protection)

And still want front mudflaps and a steering wheel cover, then I think I am near done.
Not sure what mudflaps I will get, the stock ones on the rear are a rigid plastic, but planning to get a Wheelskins steering wheel cover. I had one before, thin comfy and grippy, real nice.

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When you're not towing, just put on a hard tonneau cover - then it looks like a reasonably proportioned sedan, and that's how most people use them anyway Could be worse - could be a Hummer H2 SUT.
That just looks terribly wrong, in my opinion. Why not just close it in for better function and looks. What fifth wheel hitch would you recommend for it?
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:25 PM   #47
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Hi Jim

The trailer sits level with the pinbox at 47", measured from the ground to the bottom of the pinbox. Expect your truck to drop about 1" with the weight of the trailer attached, so set the top of the fifth wheel hitch approximately 48" from the top of the plate to the ground. The 5.0TA was designed for the half ton truck with a box height of 55"-56", so your truck will have plenty of clearance.

Here is what I asked:
Thanks for the response, my hitch guy wants to know what the pin height is while level, my truck bed is 53.5 high and he needs to know if that is too low, so what is the distance from the pin up to the trailer body to see if it will miss my bed rail. Alternatively what is the height of the trailer pin while the trailer is level. Thanks
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Okay, off topic. For those of you that use the folding bed covers with a extended/crew cab. Do they block the view of your hitch? Scott

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Old 02-09-2016, 09:57 PM   #49
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Okay, off topic. For those of you that use the folding bed covers with a extended/crew cab. Do they block the view of your hitch? Scott

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Well, I am prepared, but have yet to try it, but I really doubt it would block the view, as it only raises up about 4" for about 18" back. I will have to check it out, as I must admit I never considered it.
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Old 02-10-2016, 12:13 AM   #50
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Okay, off topic. For those of you that use the folding bed covers with a extended/crew cab. Do they block the view of your hitch? Scott

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It does on mine when just looking through the back window. I use a bed cargo camera for hitching.:
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