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Old 01-12-2018, 01:02 PM   #11
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If your freshwater tank is full, you would not require water services for several days anyway.
Yep, this. The only potential problem here is the hose. No issues with the camper plumbing in those temperatures. I would just use your fresh tank, and fill it up as needed during your stay.
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:15 PM   #12
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That's pretty much what we are all saying, if you have the foam insulation underneath.

Without the foam, you may be okay too, maybe. The little hose that runs from the fresh tank up into the body is just hanging out there, at least on mine it is.

Guess there's also a chance the gates may freeze. I had one crack last winter but I don't know if it was from freezing or me hitting something.
Bob I know this is not an exact science but is this accurate? Just thinking out loud...

The freshwater tank and supply hose up to the pump is a non-issue on all models if the city water hose is disconnected late and no water is needed overnight (fresh tank and hose empty). Drain city water hose and reconnect to hose bib in the morning after temps are back up a bit. If you have the underfloor insulation you could put some water in the tank and be fine as well and still have water to use. If you have the tank heating pads the tank would be safe to even lower temperatures, but as I understand it you need to be plugged in because even though they are 12V they will drain the batteries pretty quick. Another important point is that the 19 has no external hot and cold water lines (beyond the tank suction line), but I believe the 5.0TA and 21 do (these exit the shell, traverse the bottom, and then reenter the trailer). If you do not have the underfloor insulation these pipes would be exposed directly to outside air whether running off the city water or your freshwater tank and would likely be the first to freeze. Unlikely the gates will freeze unless the low temperatures are sustained for a while. If the daytime temperatures are a good bit above freezing then all should be well. One could always put a bit of RV antifreeze into the gray and black tanks for good measure if they are worried.
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:49 PM   #13
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Bob I know this is not an exact science but is this accurate? Just thinking out loud...

The freshwater tank and supply hose up to the pump is a non-issue on all models if the city water hose is disconnected late and no water is needed overnight (fresh tank and hose empty). Drain city water hose and reconnect to hose bib in the morning after temps are back up a bit. If you have the underfloor insulation you could put some water in the tank and be fine as well and still have water to use. If you have the tank heating pads the tank would be safe to even lower temperatures, but as I understand it you need to be plugged in because even though they are 12V they will drain the batteries pretty quick. Another important point is that the 19 has no external hot and cold water lines (beyond the tank suction line), but I believe the 5.0TA and 21 do (these exit the shell, traverse the bottom, and then reenter the trailer). If you do not have the underfloor insulation these pipes would be exposed directly to outside air whether running off the city water or your freshwater tank and would likely be the first to freeze. Unlikely the gates will freeze unless the low temperatures are sustained for a while. If the daytime temperatures are a good bit above freezing then all should be well. One could always put a bit of RV antifreeze into the gray and black tanks for good measure if they are worried.
Sounds right to me. I forgot about the 2 cross lines to the kitchen sink, in mine are about even with the shower drain (see image). They would also be in danger if it gets below freezing for long in an unfoamed trailer. I guess you could consider leaving the kitchen faucet dripping both hot and cold. No idea how long at a drip it would take to fill the grey tank.
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Old 01-12-2018, 04:40 PM   #14
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We do have the foam underneath. In a one-night cold snap a few years ago, we had the hose freeze, which cause the campground faucet to freeze. Maybe we'll try staying connected and dripping on the 30+ nights and disconnect and drain the hose on the colder nights while leaving water in the system.

Thanks for your quick response,

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Filll your fresh water tank, located in the heated space rather than risking a freeze up with city water. Next, keep cabinet doors enclosing fresh water lines opened at night. Dump a little anti freeze in the gray and black tank and don't try do dump until it is above freezing.
This advice coming from you in balmy northen Idaho.
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Old 01-12-2018, 07:36 PM   #15
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Filll your fresh water tank, located in the heated space rather than risking a freeze up with city water.
Yardsale does your 17 have an internal fresh water tank? Most Escapes have a belly tank that is exposed outside. Maybe you are suggesting that if you have have the bottom foam then the tank is in the heated space?
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Thanks everyone for your advice.

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