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Old 05-27-2015, 01:16 PM   #11
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ETI uses a forklift, which might translate to a garden tractor.

Or front hitch receiver on truck for easy steering.
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Old 05-27-2015, 02:08 PM   #12
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I'd say a power dolly would be the way to go; save the back, save the frustration of getting it where you want it.
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Old 05-27-2015, 02:31 PM   #13
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We have a dual axle trailer (cargo) at home, rated for 2000KG.

Ik just crank up the nosewheel till the frontwheels come of the ground. In a fact, the trailer is leaning/tilting over on the back axle.

That way, moving around is fairly easy and it will turn on a di.. well maybe not on a dime but on a dollarcoin.
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Old 05-27-2015, 03:09 PM   #14
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I would be afraid the 19 would be light on the nose if you jacked it up that high and one wrong bump send it on its bumper. At least that's what would happen to me.
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Old 05-27-2015, 03:51 PM   #15
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No, just the opposite. If you lift the nose enough to pick up the front wheels, then all the weight of the trailer is going to be on the rear wheels. Since the center of mass hasn't changed actual position, it is relatively (to the wheel base) further forward. Hence more weight on the hitch wheel.

I'd be concerned that the hitch wheel wouldn't be able to take the abuse if you hit a small bump with all that weight on it.
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Old 05-27-2015, 04:14 PM   #16
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ETI uses a forklift, which might translate to a garden tractor.

Or front hitch receiver on truck for easy steering.
Dunno about a garden tractor but it works good with a tractor that has a 3 point hitch; I put a ball on drawbar to haul around a 21.
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Old 05-27-2015, 04:28 PM   #17
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I saw a tandom axle Gater a couple of years ago in a campground they were using to move trailers in and out of storage. It had a 5th wheel hitch mounted on the bed and a bumper hitch and they were moving some pretty big rigs.
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Old 05-27-2015, 10:25 PM   #18
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On paved or hard packed surfaces, the 19 is not too hard to move. Real easy with two.
If the wheels are aligned, it should be reasonable to move... in a straight line. The problem for most people is turning, since the tires must scrub to do that.

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We have a dual axle trailer (cargo) at home, rated for 2000KG.

Ik just crank up the nosewheel till the frontwheels come of the ground. In a fact, the trailer is leaning/tilting over on the back axle.
That works, and if you look closely at photos from the Escape factory, you'll see that they leave the wheels off of the leading (forward) axle so the trailer is riding on only the trailing (rearward) axle, presumably for maneuverability.

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I would be afraid the 19 would be light on the nose if you jacked it up that high and one wrong bump send it on its bumper.
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No, just the opposite. If you lift the nose enough to pick up the front wheels, then all the weight of the trailer is going to be on the rear wheels. Since the center of mass hasn't changed actual position, it is relatively (to the wheel base) further forward. Hence more weight on the hitch wheel.

I'd be concerned that the hitch wheel wouldn't be able to take the abuse if you hit a small bump with all that weight on it.
I agree that tongue weight on a tandem goes up as you lift the tongue; lifting the leading tires right off the ground is very stable... although it puts too much load on the rear axle for actually towing.

Europeans seem to move the trailers on the front jack with a wheel much more than North Americans; I assume Seef's tongue jack and wheel are suited to this.

A related approach is to crank the tongue way down. If you can get the front low enough, there will be very little load on the trailing axle and tongue weight is very low. I have rented tandem cargo trailers that teeter nearly on the front axle with the tongue just off the ground... and no tongue jack at all (zero tongue weight). With the lightly loaded rear tires it's a bit easier to turn it, and there's no issue with excessive load on the tongue jack wheel.
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Old 05-27-2015, 10:42 PM   #19
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An Escape 19' usually has too much tongue weight for a lawn tractor (like mine), but a good-sized garden tractor should have no problem, and many people use this method.

A Gator is a John Deere utility vehicle. The tandem-rear-axle models are the traditional "quad" style, but the bigger models (and the military tandem) are side-by-sides. These vehicles are small compared to most cars, but they are made to work and I'm not surprised that they can handle many trailers well at low speed. If you have one of these - or even heavy-duty original quad - I think it makes sense to consider using it.

One of the slickest rigs I've seen working an RV lot is a telescopic material handler... but no one would buy one of those to move their trailer at home!
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Old 05-30-2015, 02:01 PM   #20
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I'm curious if anyone out there with the 19' Escape uses a trailer dolly? If so, any recommendations on a particular one you like?
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