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Old 02-15-2016, 10:35 PM   #1
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I'm having difficulty using my Honda 2000 with my new 5.0 TA. I turned off my built in Surg Protector, flipped the battery switch off and still got an overload red light on my gen. My appliance is a Breville convection oven. We had no problem with our Casita '17.
Any ideas woul be most appreciated.
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Old 02-15-2016, 10:41 PM   #2
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The Breville convection ovens, in Google search, are 1,800 watts.
I think you might get away with that, if you plug it directly into the generator, but not when running it through the trailer power supply.
But, what do I know? I still can't read my multi-meter.
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Old 02-16-2016, 12:18 AM   #3
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The Breville convection ovens, in Google search, are 1,800 watts.
I think you might get away with that, if you plug it directly into the generator, but not when running it through the trailer power supply.
Why? For shore power, the trailer is essentially just a big extension cord and power bar, and it's a 30-amp cord and bar. As long as a 15-amp breaker doesn't pop, what would cause a problem?
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Old 02-16-2016, 12:21 AM   #4
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We had no problem with our Casita '17.
Any ideas woul be most appreciated.
So, what's different?
Is there something additional running in the Escape which wasn't running in the Casita, such as the converter charging the trailer's battery?
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So, what's different?
Is there something additional running in the Escape which wasn't running in the Casita, such as the converter charging the trailer's battery?
And, could that be considered the trailer power supply?
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Old 02-16-2016, 12:58 AM   #6
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And, could that be considered the trailer power supply?
The converter could be considered the trailer's power supply, but power to the AC outlets doesn't go through it, only through the distribution panel. The panel is nothing more than a built-in power bar, and can't make the oven use more power.

I just can't think of any reason why going through the wiring and distribution panel would cause more load and thus overload the generator. Having the converter on at the same time is no different from having another appliance plugged in, and of course that could cause an overload when added to the oven's load.

There should be a breaker in the panel feeding the converter, so the converter can be turned off absolutely and eliminated - or confirmed - as the problem.
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I wonder how accurate the 1,800 watt claim is? And, what does a Honda 2000 actually put out?
Just asking. Know nothing.
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I wonder how accurate the 1,800 watt claim is?
Good point - I would check the label on the appliance itself, and be prepared for the possibility that actual power consumption is different, and will vary depending on exact supply voltage.

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And, what does a Honda 2000 actually put out?
Although the EU2000i has a 20-amp outlet, Honda's specs say
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120V 2000W max. (16.7A) 1600W rated (13.3A)
So, it can handle up to 2000 watts briefly, but can't sustain more than 1600 watts... the convection oven sounds like too much for it, but the combination has worked before (in the Casita), perhaps because the oven cycles on and off to maintain temperature and would never continuously maintain the maximum rated power draw.
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I had a yamaha 2400 inverter that ran perfectly with my casita but not with the 5.0 TA with the AirCondition runing. Now I have a Yamaha 2800 inverter for the 5.0 TA and this works.
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