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01-30-2016, 08:25 PM
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They did cherry or some other wood on somebody's many years ago but would not do that lately.
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01-30-2016, 08:32 PM
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I spend hours, while camping, trying to identify repetition in the pattern in the 'oak' grain.
Better than television.
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01-30-2016, 08:38 PM
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Oak grain, like a McDonald's bacon double cheeseburger, will repeat on you every time.
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01-30-2016, 08:43 PM
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I'll have fries with that.
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01-30-2016, 09:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL
re - router table...Sure is!
Far as oak goes it's not oak tone or color I think is tiresome, it's oak grain. Leave oak for McDonalds interiors. How about some cherry?
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Do like cherry too . Pat
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01-30-2016, 09:11 PM
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Seems like these oak doors are natural with a catalyzed varnish. It is a tough finish and doesn't require any extra steps with color. My brother got maple cabinets and his are contemporary looking but look kinda orange-ish to me. Natural maple is going to look kinda dead IMO.
For me, I'd much rather have the existing real oak than a paper finish cherry or any other wood picture on my cabinet doors like so many other rv's. Rah!
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01-30-2016, 10:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by float5
I like some other woods that are darker. Yes, they may make a space look smaller. It isn't actually smaller though! Our 21' looks so much bigger than the 19' partly because it is and partly because of the layout making it look so. Even if we had darker wood, it would still seem much bigger. Darker wood, or lighter, gives you a change when having had an Escape.
Beautiful router table!
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For us since we like to be outside except bad weather or to sleep the 19 has everything we could want . The nice big queen bed is what is important for us to get good sleep . Do not want a longer trailer to handle, to store ,tow etc. the width is the same as a 23 ft Oliver . What is not to like ? Still have our much bigger bath then previous Rv had and can cook , have a place to sit . Trailer has everything in a nice space . We all have our needs and wants. Good we are not all alike . What can I say .Love this trailer just the way it is . Pat
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01-30-2016, 11:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
For us since we like to be outside except bad weather or to sleep the 19 has everything we could want . The nice big queen bed is what is important for us to get good sleep . Do not want a longer trailer to handle, to store ,tow etc. the width is the same as a 23 ft Oliver . What is not to like ? Still have our much bigger bath then previous Rv had and can cook , have a place to sit . Trailer has everything in a nice space . We all have our needs and wants. Good we are not all alike . What can I say .Love this trailer just the way it is . Pat
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I do definitely miss the queen bed! But like other things on the 21'. Yes, it is a trade. Loved our 19'. Love our 21', too. And I hope the new shell they are doing is not different enough to matter to us!
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01-30-2016, 11:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by float5
I do definitely miss the queen bed! But like other things on the 21'. Yes, it is a trade. Loved our 19'. Love our 21', too. And I hope the new shell they are doing is not different enough to matter to us!
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Can't wait to see what they come up with . Pat
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01-30-2016, 11:26 PM
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Windows with rain gutters, camo graphics, and more solar capacity.
I was hot after a lounge seating arrangement, but the u-shaped dinette with Springfield pedestal takes care of that one nicely.
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01-30-2016, 11:38 PM
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Double-decker.
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01-30-2016, 11:43 PM
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Yep, that would be a change.
Edit: Integrated box
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01-30-2016, 11:46 PM
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I still want that cute beer wench feature, though no doubt Lisa then would want her own cabana boy.
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01-31-2016, 11:14 AM
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Another reason for more counter space.....
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01-31-2016, 11:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
We do a dozen kitchens a year, plus other cabinetry, and trends are to dark wood, or light painted cabinets. Personally, I am not a huge fan of the dark stained wood, usually maple, as you might as well just have a dark brown/black paint.
I know Escape has had requests for other woods, and mostly dark woods too. Personally, I would much prefer a lighter wood in the trailer myself, like maple. I do not mind the oak though. Though not used a lot in cabinetry any more, it is still used a lot in furniture. What I like to do is to mix woods, like having walnut accents with maple, like in this router table I built a couple years ago.
As I have mentioned here before, the issue for Escape is having then to have double the product on hand, and in order to make it feasible, they would have to be certain it would get lots of use.
Obviously, I too would be a fan of another wood selection, though I would still be happy with oak.
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What a sweet router table! Can I have one? [emoji4] or maybe the plans so I can copy it?
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01-31-2016, 11:59 AM
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Thanks to all for the nice comments on the router table.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JStelly
What a sweet router table! Can I have one? [emoji4] or maybe the plans so I can copy it?
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Not sure I have the plans anymore. I had adapted them from a table built by Norm Abrams.
Here is a link to more photos, if anyone is interested.
https://bearleealive.smugmug.com/Projects/Router-Table/
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01-31-2016, 12:13 PM
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Quote:
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Thanks for the pictures. Very nice! I will add this to my project list and build one someday....
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01-31-2016, 02:21 PM
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Two or three more inches of headroom would be the only thing that would make me consider a new trailer.
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01-31-2016, 02:24 PM
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Ray, have you been in the 5.0 TA? It is a lot taller than the 21....
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01-31-2016, 03:53 PM
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Yes, I have, but because of her RA, Voe doesn't want the steps.
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