|
07-20-2021, 05:06 PM
|
#1
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Colfax, California
Trailer: 2024 Escape 23 on order, 2022 RAM 1500 5.7L Laramie
Posts: 586
|
Cooktop Irony
It appears that while the sometimes problematic Suburban cooktop is certified for RV installs in Canada, the Dickinson that many here would like to have as a choice for Escape builds is not.
|
|
|
07-20-2021, 06:59 PM
|
#2
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by bborzell
It appears that while the sometimes problematic Suburban cooktop is certified for RV installs in Canada, the Dickinson that many here would like to have as a choice for Escape builds is not.
|
I’m curious as to what qualifies a cooktop as certified for RV’s. The Dickinson appliances are installed in boats all over the world subjected to very harsh conditions. Is it simply something that Dickinson just chose not to pursue?
As someone who installed a Dickinson 2 burner cooktop I’m certifying it as totally fantastic.
|
|
|
07-20-2021, 07:13 PM
|
#3
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Seal Beach, California
Trailer: 2022 Lynne's Escape19 TV GMC 1500 4x4 Diesel/
Posts: 100
|
Dickerson stoves
On one of the videos out of escape they discussed the matter of the Dickerson stoves. I would have to go back to that exact conversation to be accurate. But my memory tells me it was something along the lines of supply chain issues. Even though they were about 20 miles apart from each other. I am aware of several individuals who have changed out the stove and put in a Dickerson. They have identified themselves on the forum and Facebook
|
|
|
07-20-2021, 08:21 PM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Colfax, California
Trailer: 2024 Escape 23 on order, 2022 RAM 1500 5.7L Laramie
Posts: 586
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
I’m curious as to what qualifies a cooktop as certified for RV’s. The Dickinson appliances are installed in boats all over the world subjected to very harsh conditions. Is it simply something that Dickinson just chose not to pursue?
As someone who installed a Dickinson 2 burner cooktop I’m certifying it as totally fantastic.
|
The impression I got was that Dickinson simply did not apply for the certification.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Craiger
On one of the videos out of escape they discussed the matter of the Dickerson stoves. I would have to go back to that exact conversation to be accurate. But my memory tells me it was something along the lines of supply chain issues. Even though they were about 20 miles apart from each other. I am aware of several individuals who have changed out the stove and put in a Dickerson. They have identified themselves on the forum and Facebook
|
I got the impression that ETI staff were very interested in adding the Dickinson as an option, but the lack of cert put it dead in the water.
|
|
|
07-20-2021, 09:32 PM
|
#5
|
Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Port Moody, British Columbia
Trailer: 2022 Escape 21C
Posts: 94
|
Agreed. (I believe) Karl said in the last video that they weren’t CSA approved. He also mentioned supply issues in a previous video so not really sure which is for real. Hard to believe they aren’t approved but I also haven’t checked.
|
|
|
07-20-2021, 09:49 PM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Colfax, California
Trailer: 2024 Escape 23 on order, 2022 RAM 1500 5.7L Laramie
Posts: 586
|
And if that ain’t weird enough, the Dickinson Sea-b-Cue is CSA approved.
http://dickinsonmarine.com/product/sea-b-que-small/
|
|
|
07-21-2021, 07:56 AM
|
#7
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Lanesboro, MN, between Whalan and Fountain, Minnesota
Trailer: 2016 Bigfoot 25RQ - (2018 Escape 5.0 sold)
Posts: 2,174
|
I believe ETI will install the gas line without a stovetop. You can go home and install a Dickinson yourself. Do you know how to use a tape measure, jig saw, wrench and screwdriver?
Ass u me ing ETI will bring the gas line up through the floor in the same spot, I would ask them to have the line facing the outside wall (our Suburban line faced the center aisle).
I'd bring the Dickinson with and install in the first campground, or just use a campstove for cooking on the way home. The biggest problem I had was bending the gas line that was facing the wrong way to fit the Suburban stove. Living in a small town I just went to VIS Plumbing and borrowed their gas line bender over noon hour (they seem to be repairing/installing a lot of air conditioners these days).
Using a square, Terry made a perfect cardboard template. It took about 1 hour to cut the stove in the existing Suburban stovetop hole. Once I figured the gas line length I went to a fireplace dealer to buy a flexible gas line. We needed an 18" line, but your's will depend on where ETI terminates the gas line.
We purchased a gas sniffer to check for leaks, but there were none. After our Suburban gas explosion I'll be checking for gas leaks more often!
It's really an easy install. Oh, and relax folks, Bob and I are friends.
Enjoy,
Perry
__________________
Those who know everything use pens. Intelligent people use pencils.
|
|
|
07-21-2021, 08:17 AM
|
#8
|
Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
|
Allow me to "certify": the Dickinson Marine 00-2BP Cooktop is the BEST component in my trailer, period.
__________________
"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy an RV. And that is pretty close."
|
|
|
07-21-2021, 12:56 PM
|
#9
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffinBC
Hard to believe they aren’t approved but I also haven’t checked.
|
"Not approved" doesn't mean "not worthy of approval"; it likely just means that the manufacturer has not gone to the effort and expense of the approval process, because the RV market isn't important enough to them to bother... especially if they have limited manufacturing capacity and lots of boat owners with deep pockets to serve.
|
|
|
07-22-2021, 09:24 AM
|
#10
|
Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Port Moody, British Columbia
Trailer: 2022 Escape 21C
Posts: 94
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
"Not approved" doesn't mean "not worthy of approval"; it likely just means that the manufacturer has not gone to the effort and expense of the approval process, because the RV market isn't important enough to them to bother... especially if they have limited manufacturing capacity and lots of boat owners with deep pockets to serve.
|
I completely understand the difference and it sounds like an excellent stove. For me it’s more about insurance risks. I know it’s probably highly unlikely to occur but should the trailer catch fire due to a stovetop malfunction and the stove is not CSA approved (for example), I would be worried about that possibly coming back to bite me on the insurance claim. Just me and possibly not a real issue… I thankfully have little experience with insurance claims. Regardless, I’m interested in having a higher quality appliance.
|
|
|
07-22-2021, 11:23 AM
|
#11
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,038
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by bborzell
|
Hi: bborzell... It's ok by me if you want to rock the boat. There's probably more of them than trailers. Our Dickinson Spitfire 180 Grille w/ hi low flame control, is one cracker of a cooker!!! Stows in the 5.0TA storage compartment above the propane tanks. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
__________________
Quote Bugs Bunny..."Don't take life too seriously, none of us get out of it ALIVE"!!!
'16 Ram Eco D. 4X4 Laramie Longhorn CC & '14 Escape 5.0TA
St.Thomas (Not the Virgin Islands) Ontario
|
|
|
07-22-2021, 01:31 PM
|
#12
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,038
|
No irony board!!!
Hi: bborzell... All of our camping trips are "Wash-n-wear". No irony allowed!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
__________________
Quote Bugs Bunny..."Don't take life too seriously, none of us get out of it ALIVE"!!!
'16 Ram Eco D. 4X4 Laramie Longhorn CC & '14 Escape 5.0TA
St.Thomas (Not the Virgin Islands) Ontario
|
|
|
07-22-2021, 04:31 PM
|
#13
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Trailer: 2012 E19
Posts: 1,756
|
Real cooktop irony...
__________________
Losing weight puts one at much greater risk of becoming thin.
|
|
|
07-22-2021, 04:41 PM
|
#14
|
Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
|
I'll take the Dutch Oven, Mike, provided the ground is soft enough to dig a hole for it and line it with coals. One of the best cooking methods ever.
__________________
"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy an RV. And that is pretty close."
|
|
|
07-22-2021, 06:14 PM
|
#15
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
|
and those silicone cleaners pictured really work well on them.........
__________________
Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
|
|
|
07-28-2021, 10:07 AM
|
#16
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Upstate, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19 - June 27, 2017
Posts: 279
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
As someone who installed a Dickinson 2 burner cooktop I’m certifying it as totally fantastic.
|
Completely agree. We think the Dickinson is fantastic!
|
|
|
07-28-2021, 01:45 PM
|
#17
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Colfax, California
Trailer: 2024 Escape 23 on order, 2022 RAM 1500 5.7L Laramie
Posts: 586
|
Perry who?
|
|
|
07-28-2021, 05:28 PM
|
#18
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Trailer: 2021 Escape E5.0; 2021 F150 PowerBoost
Posts: 1,192
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by bborzell
The impression I got was that Dickinson simply did not apply for the certification.
I got the impression that ETI staff were very interested in adding the Dickinson as an option, but the lack of cert put it dead in the water.
|
FYI, ETI installed the customer-supplied Dickinson Marine cooktop for us earlier this year. I did not hear of any missing certification...
Very happy with that choice!
|
|
|
07-28-2021, 05:33 PM
|
#19
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Trailer: 2021 Escape E5.0; 2021 F150 PowerBoost
Posts: 1,192
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by escape artist
Hi: bborzell... It's ok by me if you want to rock the boat. There's probably more of them than trailers. Our Dickinson Spitfire 180 Grille w/ hi low flame control, is one cracker of a cooker!!! Stows in the 5.0TA storage compartment above the propane tanks. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
|
Very impressed with neat and nice your storage area above the propane tanks looks! Ours has the full kitchen sink in that space.
Now starting to appreciate your escape artist moniker
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|