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Old 05-14-2015, 10:19 AM   #41
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Is there a true head to the bed?
Yes. It's where your head is.

Some folks (like the strange Mr. Bennett), sleep with their head on the driver side. Others (like the normal Mr. Bryan) sleep with their head on the passenger side.

Put the lights at the end where YOUR head will be.
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Old 05-14-2015, 10:32 AM   #42
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TV arm

We put the TV arm in the standard location on the wall on the driver side. the arm swings out so you can watch TV from the dinette or swings in and you can watch in bed, unless, like Jim you lay backwards in bed.
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Couple things to think about. What are you used to at home? I've always slept on my wife's left side. Changing sides keeps me awake. Who has to get up in the night to use the bathroom? You don't want to do the crawl over if you can avoid it. And, being able to reach the thermostat without getting up is handy. In our 17B we sleep with head to the passenger side. My feet go under the flip-up counter next to the sink, so we leave that counter up all the time.
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Some folks (like the strange Mr. Bennett)
Trying to think of a comeback here, but it is hard to argue against the truth.
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Old 05-18-2015, 08:08 PM   #45
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Ok two more questions.

Power Jack, worth it? I'm planning on storing outside in winter conditions. Is it more of a convenience factor?

Also which grafix color would match this color Toyota, see link below. Would it be battleship grey?

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Old 05-18-2015, 08:21 PM   #46
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Yes, battleship grey (our Tundra is that color as are the graphics on our trailer).

Also, like Sokol, we have the TV mounted on the wall by the frig and we sleep with our heads on the passenger side. I sleep on the inside which works out great for me as it means DH is the one that has to go out and walk the dogs in the morning.
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Old 05-18-2015, 08:38 PM   #47
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We ordered the Umbra hooks from Amazon and had them shipped directly to ETI. During our briefing, they asked us where we wanted them, cut them to length (they have a steel rod or core as I remember), and had them mounted in about 30". Anything hanging on the back wall of the bathroom is rather out of the way and doesn't interfere with the seating for the table. They also made this nifty little brace to keep our under the bed wardrobe containers from moving forward.
Love the simple things! I have been trying to think of a removable brace and this looks like it will work. As usual I have been over thinking it.

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Old 05-20-2015, 07:22 AM   #48
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Toilet? Some people have upgrade to the foot pedal toilet. Anyone care to list pro and cons?
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Old 05-20-2015, 07:49 AM   #49
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Toilet? Some people have upgrade to the foot pedal toilet. Anyone care to list pro and cons?
Can't think of a con. We love the foot flush. It's also VERY handy to be able to keep the trap open with your foot while you clean the tank out.
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Can't think of a con. We love the foot flush. It's also VERY handy to be able to keep the trap open with your foot while you clean the tank out.
Gotta agree. Not a big deal but that leaning forward over the bowl to flush isn't that great. I'd get the foot flush if I was doing it again.

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I don't have to balance on one foot while holding the trap open for cleaning.
A container of Wet Ones wedged between the lever and the wall does the job.
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consider some flip up tables mounted on the bed side. Very handy for a cup of coffee or tea when lounging in the bed. We had a narrow one placed at the head and foot of the bed (wall between bed and stovetop, and wall between bed and fridge). The one at our feet stays out at night, and gives us a handy place for a phone, wallet, eyeglasses, or God forbid, an alarm clock. We also like the porch lights on both the driver and passenger side, controlled by two switches we had mounted on the end of the overhead cabinet over the sink.
This is a great idea! Do you have any pics?
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Old 06-24-2015, 10:01 AM   #53
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This is a great idea! Do you have any pics?
Here you go. This one's at the head of the bed. There's another at the foot just like it. The last photo is the one of the light switches.
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Old 06-24-2015, 10:19 AM   #54
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Here you go. This one's at the head of the bed. There's another at the foot just like it. The last photo is the one of the light switches.
While putting together our build sheet, I've learned tons from your posts and photos... and am including many of your ideas on our sheet. Having had Past Tents for a while now, are there any things you didn't do that you wish you had? Or that you did do that you really don't use or need?

BTW, thanks for all your posts and photos.

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Old 06-24-2015, 11:02 AM   #55
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While putting together our build sheet, I've learned tons from your posts and photos... and am including many of your ideas on our sheet. Having had Past Tents for a while now, are there any things you didn't do that you wish you had? Or that you did do that you really don't use or need?

BTW, thanks for all your posts and photos.

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We spent alot of time researching options, and I think we pretty much nailed it. The only option I'm still not 100% sure of is a u-shaped dinette. I was of the opinion that in the 19, the dinette area was just a bit too small to take advantage of the u-shape, and that a standard bench seating was better. I got talked into going with the u-shaped at the last minute. I like the u-shape, but it's more cramped than the one on the 21 or the 5.0TA. IMHO The u-shaped dinette is kind of a coin flip on the 19.

Be aware that a 19 with the U-shape dinette standard table mount from ETI, there are two poles that support the reduced size table, and it slides from side to side. It's a tight fit along the back, making adult seating difficult if not impossible. We have since added the Springfield Marine pedestal, and I moved the table mounting point slightly forward so that seating along the back has more room.

The U-shaped dinette is literally the only thing I can think of that we "might" have done differently.
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What's the advantage of the Springfield Marine pedestal over what is supplied at the Escape factory? We want to be able to remove the table easily, so that several people can sit and play instruments around the "U".
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The only option I'm still not 100% sure of is a u-shaped dinette.
I agree with your "after the fact" analysis completely, Robert. If I was getting a 19 again, I would not do the U-shaped dinette in it, for sure. I am still not totally sold in the 21, though have started leaning that way. The extra width still allows space for 2 to sit on each side. I wouldn't imagine you could do that in the 19 U-shaped dinette, could you?
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Old 10-10-2015, 10:24 AM   #58
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Depending on your bed size needs, one possibility that allows a larger table with the U-Shaped dinette is to reverse the bed & table. This puts the table at the more attractive end of most campsites, solves the high window problem, and the table can be large enough for 4.

On the other hand, the bed will only be 48" wide. While this is the size in an Escape 17B, and large enough for many couples, it may not be large enough for all...
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In the 19' we saw that had bed and dinette reversed, they are using the dinette for a bed, making it up every day, in addition to the other smaller bed at the front, using both beds.
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One aspect that is completely overlooked on the U dinette is storage. We have our progressive EMS(surge protector), electrical panel, inverter and batteries at the U end of the dinette. This means we have storage under the benches on the side for stove, fan, electrical cords and more. About all of that space on the sides would have been taken without the U.
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