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01-24-2017, 07:47 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
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How do you handle the books ...
How do you handle your library on tandem axles?
We are upgrading from a 13' Trillium to a 19' Escape, with completion expected around the time I press "submit' on this new thread. We tend to read a lot (Flatlandreader is a librarian, so occupational hazard) and we tend to travel with a lot of reference materials (insect and bird identification, roadside geology guides, hiking guides, backroad maps, and general fiction).
Pretty sure that we're not the only bookophiles in the Escape world. Where and how do other mobile library users store their books in their Escape? We never considered trailer-compatible shelving in our build.
I've had problems with books in my Trillium - heavy books on the back shelves (above the table) tend to become airborne when driving over moderate bumps. The safest method may be a Rubbermaid tote in the storage space under the bed.
Stephen
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01-24-2017, 08:01 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 2013 19' & 2013 15B
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Majority of our books are e-books so storage space is usually minimal. A couple of paperbacks fit easily into the overhead compartments also.
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01-24-2017, 08:01 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
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Best place would be to transfer them to your computer, carrying books is heavy stuff and impacts your gas efficiency.
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Jim
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01-24-2017, 08:15 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: None, sold my 2014 5.0TA
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Don't have a 19 but you are not alone, even with the readers there are books all over. I don't leave the house with this many, but they seem to procreate as we travel. Glad I replaced the standard door catches with better ones. I have books in 3 places in the trailer, 2 overheads and the bottom of the closet, and some in the truck.
Is it too late to order a 21.
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Bob
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01-24-2017, 08:35 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
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After many trips, we both switched to eBooks for the simplicity and ability to take as many along was we wanted. If we go through all the one we bring along, we can buy new ones whenever we have internet access. We've also switched most of our magazine subscriptions to electronic editions.
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01-24-2017, 08:42 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Knox, Maine
Trailer: 2017 19'
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Yes, we love books too. Many bird books and travel books as well as good reads. We don't have our escape yet (March 3!!!!) but we'd thought a crate in the back seat of our truck. That way the bird/travel books would be at hand when unhitched as well. We can also put a dog bed on top so that Tally, our corgi, can see out the window.
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01-24-2017, 08:50 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Bellingham and Glacier, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 15A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlatlandFlyFisher
How do you handle your library on tandem axles?
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I don't have tandem axles but I do have a library in my little 15A. I find having books and manuals on tablets or computers useless for two reasons. First, if they're in the "cloud" they're unavailable w/o wi-fi service which I seldom have. Second, browsing through a reference book is an absolute pain on an electronic device. Just my opinion.
My library is in the rear cabinet above the dining table. That area is where I read, spread out my reference materials, and organize my thoughts and plans for the day with maps and other print matter.
On edit: My reading books (fiction) are pre-loaded on my electronic device while at home.
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2013 Escape 15A, "Egbert"
'93 Ford 150 XLT or
'22 GMC Acadia Denali
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01-24-2017, 09:19 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KarenH
I don't have tandem axles but I do have a library in my little 15A. I find having books and manuals on tablets or computers useless for two reasons. First, if they're in the "cloud" they're unavailable w/o wi-fi service which I seldom have. Second, browsing through a reference book is an absolute pain on an electronic device. Just my opinion.
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Karen, you can keep lots of books on a tablet or other device used for reading. If you have hordes, some can be stored online, and then accessed whenever you do have WiFi.
You are right though, that there are certain types of books that are a pain on a tablet. Sure you can use bookmarks, but still not as quick or intuitive.
An e-reader does work fine for novels, but often I just like curling up with a book, something I am comfy with. I must admit I am slow to moving to e-books, but sure I will get there some day.
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01-24-2017, 09:43 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
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Mary's in a book club and several members will never give up their paper books and some are fine with eBooks. She even listens to some as audio books as she cooks and/or works in the garden. We love to listen to audio books as we travel, seems to make the miles melt away.
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01-24-2017, 10:04 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Surrey, British Columbia
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We have gone to eReaders, which are especially handy when traveling. They hold thousands of books, the text can be displayed at a size that is easy on the eyes, and we can download books and holds from our home library while traveling. I get the reference book thing and do have a few paper books available when we travel. Our paper books used to take up an entire long cupboard and more.
Bob K
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01-24-2017, 10:47 AM
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19 (Serenity).
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Thanks, everyone. I will look at the reinforced latches, after we get moved into our Escape.
I appreciate the suggestions about electronic books. We use these electronic forms extensively, where appropriate. However, electronic is not good for field guides and map books - where size and quick access are important, or for library books that are unavailable in electronic form.
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01-24-2017, 11:19 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
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Over the years we have accumulated overstuffed shelves of various, bird, mammal, lizard, rock, native prairie plants, astronomy, etc etc guides. Now that there are app guides available for our iPhones (and for Android) I find myself using my phone more and more for instances when I want that types of guide.
What I especially love about the best bird apps now available is being able to play the various calls we are hearing on the phone to help with identification. I never could get the hang of the audio graphs of calls. Also the sheer number of photos of the birds really helps me and being in such a small package as my phone makes it easy to allows take it along.
We also have a couple of GPS topographic map programs, that allow us to have topo maps of everywhere we have so far wanted them for hikes, and record the tracks we have made. They have come in very handy at times with junctions at poorly marked trails. The downside is that the GPS programs really suck down the batteries so if we are going on long hikes we need to take along extra battery power.
I used to have a Garmin GPS handheld, but the interface was so obtuse I seemly needed the manual to do most anything. The apps for the phones are usually quite intuitive.
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Eric (and Mary who is in no way responsible for anything stupid I post)
"Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance." George Bernard Shaw
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01-24-2017, 01:00 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Travis County, Texas
Trailer: 2015 Esc 21. Formerly, Casita LD (16 & 17)
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I carry a "book bag." The heaviest thing in it is the notebook with all the trailer appliance and other info. There's also always our road atlas, plus a paperback novel or two, and a couple of topo maps for hiking/cycling. This usually is stowed in the tow vehicle, unless it's being used (and of course sometimes things just come out of it for a day or three). In addition to the book bag, we have an old First Aid book and and old Stars guide that stay in the trailer, in one of the overhead bins. Just added to them a new book on Cloud formations...and last summer when we were in Colorado, I also brought along a wildflower identifier and a book on back roads driving trips (which caused us to make the unfortunate trek across Hagerman Pass, so I don't know if that book will EVER come with us again).
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01-24-2017, 01:07 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
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I prefer real books, and carry them in a plastic bin in the back seat of my tow vehicle; that way I can throw the bin (as well as all the rest of the junk stored there) in the trailer if I need the back seat. I usually have somewhere between 10 - 20 unread books & give them away or trade them in when read at laundries, campground offices, etc. I don't have a TV, so I do a lot of reading.
I've reached the age where I have to keep a database on my phone to keep from picking up or buying books that I've already read - the 10 year old database is currently at 1756...
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01-24-2017, 01:58 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Ceresco, Michigan
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I bought a tote from 21 to keep our books, maps, and journal in. It is rectangular with stiff sides and a handle. The books can stand like they would on a shelf. Will stash it under the table against the front wall.
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01-24-2017, 03:03 PM
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: Seatac, Washington
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I plan to get some shelf dividers from Charlie (of RV Widget Works) so the books will stay together. haven't figured out where to put the travel guides, reading books, etc, but most likely in the cabinet over the dinette area.
I detest reading on my ipad so the few books I have on there have been there for ages and ages. It would have been faster reading the books from the library!
I always have a book with me and I'll read a few pages or so while waiting in line to buy stuff. I can't just sit around and twiddle my thumbs while waiting. And I refuse to become one of those with a smart phone always on it. (kind of an oxymoron there!)
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01-24-2017, 03:08 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Fullerton, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thoer
What I especially love about the best bird apps now available is being able to play the various calls we are hearing on the phone to help with identification. I never could get the hang of the audio graphs of calls. Also the sheer number of photos of the birds really helps me and being in such a small package as my phone makes it easy to allows take it along.
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Which bird apps would you suggest?
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01-24-2017, 03:17 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hrewer
Which bird apps would you suggest?
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Our current favorites are iBird Pro and Audubon Birds. (We have most of the Audubon collection of guide apps)
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Eric (and Mary who is in no way responsible for anything stupid I post)
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01-24-2017, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by hrewer
Which bird apps would you suggest?
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I use iBirds Plus. I don't know if it is available for Android, but the search capability is great for ID ing an unknown bird. Playing bird calls can annoy live birds...
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01-24-2017, 03:27 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilye
... Playing bird calls can annoy live birds...
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Good point Jon. I should have mentioned we try to use that option judiciously, but it sure can be helpful.
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