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04-10-2016, 05:46 PM
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pardon my ignorance.. but is there any way to convert a black tank to a composting tank like the humanure or maybe like Nature's head by redirecting urine to another tank?
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04-10-2016, 05:49 PM
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HI LJY, here is one of the threads discussing composting toilets and trailers. http://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f8...ilet-2350.html
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04-12-2016, 08:12 AM
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Thanks, Eric.
Unless I missed it... I was actually thinking if possible to convert the black tank and use it like a big compost tank using carbon materials. Not sure if it's vented already?? but, if so, just draw fresh air into it like Nature's Head toilet...
I currently make my own compost at home, but only with non-meat items. It would be cool if I can reuse the RV compost in rural land that I plan to buy which doesn't have sewer/septic system.
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04-12-2016, 08:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LJY
Thanks, Eric.
Unless I missed it... I was actually thinking if possible to convert the black tank and use it like a big compost tank using carbon materials. Not sure if it's vented already?? but, if so, just draw fresh air into it like Nature's Head toilet...
I currently make my own compost at home, but only with non-meat items. It would be cool if I can reuse the RV compost in rural land that I plan to buy which doesn't have sewer/septic system.
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For your rural land, it would probably be simpler to build something to empty the tank into and compost it outside the trailer than trying to modify the trailer system.
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04-12-2016, 08:37 AM
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good pt, but how would I avoid the chemicals used in black tank and avoid the stink?
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04-12-2016, 08:42 AM
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You don;t have to use chemicals at all, there are enzyme based products that many people use. Maybe something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Walex-BIO-1153...+toilet+enzyme
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04-12-2016, 08:51 AM
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We often use the surface of our hay field for natural composting.
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04-12-2016, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
We often use the surface of our hay field for natural composting.
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I have been known to do the same for our prairie.
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04-12-2016, 08:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thoer
I have been known to do the same for our prairie.
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Why not, the cattle do it. And just one cow produces more "waste" in a day, then a trailer does in a weekend.
Most of my relatives are farmers and ranchers, and all have RV's. This is where I learned the practice.
We too use a non-chemical tank treatment like you showed.
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04-12-2016, 09:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrywin
Has anyone had/done a modification to change the shower/toilet room into a closet space?
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A fiberglass owner here but not an Escape
https://youtu.be/Fn24u_TkGQY
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04-12-2016, 12:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
And just one cow produces more "waste" in a day, then a trailer does in a weekend.
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The diet and digestive system of cattle and people are not quite the same, and that matters to the waste, so there are limits to applying this logic.
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04-12-2016, 12:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
The diet and digestive system of cattle and people are not quite the same, and that matters to the waste, so there are limits to applying this logic.
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Please note the use of a winky face.
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04-13-2016, 07:46 PM
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I've heard great things about the Nature's Head composting toilet. Too bad it can't be adapted for an Escape. Sure appears to make a lot of sense.
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04-13-2016, 08:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mcdonner
I've heard great things about the Nature's Head composting toilet. Too bad it can't be adapted for an Escape. Sure appears to make a lot of sense.
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I would like to know why it can be adapted for use in a Escape?
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04-13-2016, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kirkman
I would like to know why it can be adapted for use in a Escape?
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I assume this was intended to be "why it can't be adapted for use in a Escape". The bathroom interior is moulded fiberglass, shaped around the black waste tank. If you remove the toilet, you still have the big step in the floor with the black tank underneath, so there isn't enough height for a typical composting toilet... or anything else other than a toilet intended to sit on a tank like that.
See post #4 of this thread.
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04-14-2016, 06:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
I assume this was intended to be "why it can't be adapted for use in a Escape". The bathroom interior is moulded fiberglass, shaped around the black waste tank. If you remove the toilet, you still have the big step in the floor with the black tank underneath, so there isn't enough height for a typical composting toilet... or anything else other than a toilet intended to sit on a tank like that.
See post #4 of this thread.
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Brian.... Your correct I meant can't......If that's the only reason that it would be to tall you could have a small short step stool so your feet don't dangle.
It sure would be a water saver if camping/boon docking in the desert.
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04-14-2016, 11:44 AM
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You could always use one of these a squaty potty, no kidding watch the whole thing.
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04-14-2016, 11:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake930
You could always use one of these a squaty potty, no kidding watch the whole thing.
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04-14-2016, 06:26 PM
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This thread is on the way to reaching new lows...introducing the Bumper Dumper
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04-14-2016, 06:35 PM
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This thread is on the way to reaching new lows...introducing the Bumper Dumper
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Imagine the great views you could have while using it.
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