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Old 11-30-2021, 04:59 PM   #1
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Solving the Climb-over problem

Been waking up mornings around at three or four. If it isnít a bathroom check itís leg pains, back pains. In the prone all night never used to be an issue. Senior status got me. Need to swing a leg off the bed onto the floor, thinking that makes gravity send more blood down the leg. That don't work good in an Escape bed for two.

The evil midnight Charlie horse, midnight runs to the bathroom, back pains, peripheral neuropathy-- why me?

True, the queen size bed in the Escape trailer is comfortable. But it is the climb-over thatís the problem. I am not ready to quit trailer camping. Just canít do the climb over any more. Must adapt to the new reality of the senior life. Think maybe I found a solution. Posted this U-tube video on it.

https://youtu.be/IquSsk31-Wc
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Old 11-30-2021, 05:39 PM   #2
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The creativity of Escape owners continues to amaze me. Great job!
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The creativity of Escape owners continues to amaze me. Great job!
Oh Myron is very creative.

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Old 11-30-2021, 06:53 PM   #4
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very clever!
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Old 11-30-2021, 08:45 PM   #5
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For leg pains try drinking Selzer Water when they happen.

Swepps is good one.
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For leg pains try drinking Selzer Water when they happen.

Swepps is good one.
Of course, then you have to get up to pee.
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Old 11-30-2021, 10:22 PM   #7
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I don't get it. At the outset I thought the problem was having to get up in the middle of the night and climb over the wife. The "solution" I see in the video appears to have no relevance to sleeping at night; it looks like a place to stretch out and relax during the daytime. What am I missing?
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I used to have leg pain and back spasms at night. Turned out that I was very under hydrated. Started drinking more water and less cola and the problem went away. Might be something to try.
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Isn't the true sign of advancing age (& I'm there) when one starts viewing the climb over as a problem instead of an opportunity?��
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Old 12-01-2021, 09:32 AM   #10
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How true, how true......!
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Maybe just use a sleeping bag. Actually the new permanent "bed" is a good fit for me. Well, I won't sleep outside the trailer, I'll sleep in front, drink seltzer. (My best opportunity.) Easier egress-no climb-over. Recently discovered non-alcohol beer. That works for me, unless needing the alcohol to sleep. Got enough pillows. May have to sew up a dedicated sheet.
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Old 12-01-2021, 04:38 PM   #12
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Old 12-01-2021, 06:51 PM   #13
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We solved the crawl-over problem by ordering a "reverse" 19. Our convertible queen bed/dinette is in the back and we have a twin bed in the front. She sleeps on the converted queen bed, I sleep on the front twin. She sits up and reads, I curl up and go to sleep in a dark space. Conversion takes us about 5 minutes, maybe less. No crawl overs, ever!
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We solved the crawl-over problem by ordering a "reverse" 19. Our convertible queen bed/dinette is in the back and we have a twin bed in the front. She sleeps on the converted queen bed, I sleep on the front twin. She sits up and reads, I curl up and go to sleep in a dark space. Conversion takes us about 5 minutes, maybe less. No crawl overs, ever!
Not judging your solution, just making an observation that it wouldn't work for us. My wife and I have slept in the same bed since the day we were married decades ago (except of course for the occasional business trip). And hopefully that will be the case until the day one of us leaves this world. Having to crawl over is not something we think about.
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Not judging your solution, just making an observation that it wouldn't work for us. My wife and I have slept in the same bed since the day we were married decades ago (except of course for the occasional business trip). And hopefully that will be the case until the day one of us leaves this world. Having to crawl over is not something we think about.
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We solved the crawl-over problem by ordering a "reverse" 19. Our convertible queen bed/dinette is in the back and we have a twin bed in the front. She sleeps on the converted queen bed, I sleep on the front twin. She sits up and reads, I curl up and go to sleep in a dark space. Conversion takes us about 5 minutes, maybe less. No crawl overs, ever!
Would you have any photos of this layout?
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Not judging your solution, just making an observation that it wouldn't work for us. My wife and I have slept in the same bed since the day we were married decades ago (except of course for the occasional business trip). And hopefully that will be the case until the day one of us leaves this world. Having to crawl over is not something we think about.
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Old 12-02-2021, 10:40 AM   #18
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Would you have any photos of this layout?
Yes please do, this is something we are contemplating for our next build....
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After having a couple of pop-up campers, a 21' Aerolite, 16 Bambi Airstream, 16' Scamp, and 17' Casita, all with crawl-over beds, we agreed to never have another.

In Olympic National Park, on our one and only camping trip (5 weeks) with our Lance 1995 , we finally were able to view an Escape 21 with it's non-crawl-over bed and realized, "That's for us!" We ordered a 21 while driving back home through Wyoming. After we arrived home I asked ETI who had a 5th wheel to see the differences. After over two hours, each being shown by the respective spouses, driving home less than two blocks from their place, we both agreed the 5.0 better fit our needs.

Some have had problems going down the steps of their 5.0, but our LP gas detector is on the bottom step and provides the perfect night light, so I've never missed the short step (Terry gets down on the other side where I installed a grab rail).

We'll never get another crawl-over bed, but if the steps in the 5.0 ever become a problem we'd purchase a 21.

However, I do understand everyone has their own needs and want's.

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Has anyone considered or implemented a small platform section that one could slide out from under a convertible dinette in the 17B? This could allow sleeping with heads at the rear of the trailer and feet in the aisle. This would block some cabinets and refrigerator at night, but could be worth that inconvenience.
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