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09-21-2022, 10:23 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Colorado, Colorado
Trailer: Owner of a 17A since April 2019
Posts: 19
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Disconnecting gas spring from door
Can anyone confirm that the plastic fitting for the gas spring can be disconnected by applying upward pressure? I can't get mine to disconnect, and hate trying to force a plastic piece.
Thanks!
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09-21-2022, 03:50 PM
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#2
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,818
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Since my friction hinges are due to arrive on my doorstep in the next couple of hours that's a timely question.
I went and looked at mine. The end is very similar to the struts that hold up my box cover but they don't have a small part that you move to release.
It looks like the top part might be able to be pried up but my over enthusiasm has broken a part or two .
So that makes two us asking. The alternative seems to be to unscrew the two screws holding the bracket on.
Ron
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09-21-2022, 04:32 PM
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#3
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Colorado, Colorado
Trailer: Owner of a 17A since April 2019
Posts: 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
So that makes two us asking. The alternative seems to be to unscrew the two screws holding the bracket on.
Ron
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I had the same thought, but one of my two screws is blocked by the rod from the gas spring
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09-21-2022, 04:38 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Snohomish, Washington
Trailer: 2017 19 foot sold, 2022 21C
Posts: 659
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I just removed the strut so I could install the friction hinges yesterday. I used an Allen key to remove the bracket screws. I didn't even think the strut might be removable
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09-21-2022, 05:23 PM
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#5
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by endorice
I had the same thought, but one of my two screws is blocked by the rod from the gas spring
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Remove the inboard bracket first, swing arm out for access to the screw.
Unless someone confirms that the arm just pops off the bracket that's what I'll do. Then I'll just re-insert the screws to plug the holes and so I'll know where they are if I want to re-install the arm.
Going to wait until I have the friction hinges in my hand before I do it.
Ron
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09-21-2022, 06:13 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Victoria, Texas
Trailer: 21C Jan. 15, 2021
Posts: 358
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Remove it from threshold first then swing arm to allow excess.
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09-21-2022, 06:15 PM
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#7
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Victoria, Texas
Trailer: 21C Jan. 15, 2021
Posts: 358
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Put one friction hinge on ,let wife check it out. She wanted both on.
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09-23-2022, 08:54 PM
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#8
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
... I went and looked at mine. The end is very similar to the struts that hold up my box cover but they don't have a small part that you move to release.
It looks like the top part might be able to be pried up but my over enthusiasm has broken a part or two .
So that makes two us asking. The alternative seems to be to unscrew the two screws holding the bracket on.
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I appreciate the wisdom of caution in this sort of thing, but I'm also certain that this rod end pops off of the ball. You can see the steel retaining spring around the socket. While there are variations in these gas struts and their hardware, the ball size is pretty much universal and and they all seem to pop together. It is always a good idea to check for something that needs to be released first, such as the latching part or a spring to be removed.
I really don't like taking screws like those holding the bracket out, because they are probably just self-tapping jun that won't be secure if just put back in the same hole.
My motorhome has about a dozen compartment doors with these gas struts, plus the main door has one, and my car and van are hatchbacks with more of these gas struts, so they get pretty familiar after a few years.
But I still don't offer any guarantees that nothing will break.
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09-24-2022, 02:20 PM
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#9
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
but I'm also certain that this rod end pops off of the ball.
But I still don't offer any guarantees that nothing will break.
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Ever thought about going into politics?
I took a real good look at it again. Removing the screws isn't as easy as I thought.
Watched all sorts of stuff where the person just inserts a thin screwdriver into a narrow slot, lifts the clip and pops the end off. Despite watching several videos showing the small access slot etc. the Escape strut doesn't have that slot. It sort of looks like a screwdriver might be able to be used but until I hear someone say, yah, just pull hard on it, it'll stay in place.
The strut is made by Newport Engineering Assoc. and they have a phone # on the strut. I'll give them a call on Mon. Having broken a few clips over the years makes me a little cautious. If I don't like the friction hinges I'd like to keep the option of putting the strut back on.
Ron
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09-24-2022, 06:08 PM
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#10
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,818
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OK, full disclosure. When a package arrives I have it opened and am starting to put things together before the delivery guy has gone very far. My wife takes the instructions or manual and sits down to read it.
So the delivery guy arrives while I have the trailer door open kind of looking for ways to get rid of the strut. OK, now I have the hinges in my hot little hand, they never made it to the house. So, what the heck, go for it.
Took a large flat blade screwdriver and pried the inboard end this way and that and it pops off. I can see that the clip holding it on is an upside down "U". No sliding sideways like in the videos.
I used more force than I wanted to on the outboard end. Couldn't get it to pop off but I noticed that the rod going to it rotated. Bing, bang, unthread the rod etc. The ball end can stay where it is until I get up enough nerve to try prying it off again.
Easy installation. Don't know why they have buyers having to drill the extra holes. Easy to do, especially with drill press. They seem to suggesting that you could just use the self tapping screws but that's not the way I'd like to go.
Going to take a bit of getting used to. I liked the strut but there were a few times when the door open at 90* was inconvenient.
Boy, by the time you've added two additional hinges the edge of the door almost looks like it has a piano hinge. Not much danger of unexpected forces tearing the door off the trailer.
Ron
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09-24-2022, 06:27 PM
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#11
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Snohomish, Washington
Trailer: 2017 19 foot sold, 2022 21C
Posts: 659
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
OK, full disclosure. When a package arrives I have it opened and am starting to put things together before the delivery guy has gone very far. My wife takes the instructions or manual and sits down to read it.
So the delivery guy arrives while I have the trailer door open kind of looking for ways to get rid of the strut. OK, now I have the hinges in my hot little hand, they never made it to the house. So, what the heck, go for it.
Took a large flat blade screwdriver and pried the inboard end this way and that and it pops off. I can see that the clip holding it on is an upside down "U". No sliding sideways like in the videos.
I used more force than I wanted to on the outboard end. Couldn't get it to pop off but I noticed that the rod going to it rotated. Bing, bang, unthread the rod etc. The ball end can stay where it is until I get up enough nerve to try prying it off again.
Easy installation. Don't know why they have buyers having to drill the extra holes. Easy to do, especially with drill press. They seem to suggesting that you could just use the self tapping screws but that's not the way I'd like to go.
Going to take a bit of getting used to. I liked the strut but there were a few times when the door open at 90* was inconvenient.
Boy, by the time you've added two additional hinges the edge of the door almost looks like it has a piano hinge. Not much danger of unexpected forces tearing the door off the trailer.
Ron
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I also questioned why I had to drill holes in the hinge thinking maybe hinge is made for different door thicknesses. Oh and yes it would take hurricane force to have this door disconnect from the trailer now
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09-25-2022, 09:16 AM
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#12
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Lanesboro, MN, between Whalan and Fountain, Minnesota
Trailer: 2016 Bigfoot 25RQ - (2018 Escape 5.0 sold)
Posts: 2,174
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Replaced ours a week ago. I tried pulling on the strut to remove and was just going to bend or break something. After unscrewing the strut from the ends, I got out an old steak knife, slipped it underneath the spring clip, twisted it sideways and off it popped. The other was as easy to remove. The new strut popped on in a second.
In my case the old steak knife made the job easy-peazy.
Enjoy,
Perry
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09-25-2022, 09:50 AM
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#13
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Lewiston ID, Idaho
Trailer: 2021 5.0 TA
Posts: 376
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I just used a very small flat screwdriver and stuck it under that band / keeper thing. Came right off.
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Trying full timing now.
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09-25-2022, 11:42 AM
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#14
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perry Butler
In my case the old steak knife made the job easy-peazy.
Enjoy,
Perry
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I'm wondering if the newer ones don't have a slightly deeper recess that allows for the use of a small screwdriver. Mine's about the same age as yours and, yes, a steak knife works. But it's still a bit of effort to get it under the clip, impossible with a small screwdriver.
But, collectively, I guess we've answered the OPs original question.
Well, old habits die hard. Went out and unlocked the door and expected the door to pop open to 90*. Gasp, I had to pull it open.
Ron
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06-28-2023, 11:38 AM
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#15
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Greenwood, Indiana
Trailer: 2020 Escape 5.0TA
Posts: 365
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Years ago my father-in-law was shocked when I used a kitchen knife to remove a small screw instead of going to the garage for a screw driver. I thought using a knife was a “girl thing”. Glad I’m not a weirdo after all.
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