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Old 06-13-2015, 04:15 PM   #21
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Just a note about those in-bed ball hitches: they are at bed floor level, so much lower than a typical fifth-wheel - that's going the opposite direction from shotgun's "over the cargo" proposal.
Whereas I envision a flat tonneau cover with a stitched hole in the center for the gooseneck attachment, thus allowing the use of the entire bed under the cover.
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Old 06-13-2015, 04:47 PM   #22
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Whereas I envision a flat tonneau cover with a stitched hole in the center for the gooseneck attachment, thus allowing the use of the entire bed under the cover.
Okay, that's an interesting idea, and it would work. It would require lifting the tongue very high to pull the coupler all the way up from the bed floor to clear the tonneau cover, and lining it up to hitch up would be difficult. A tall ball mount (such as the current Scamp offering or the Andersen Ultimate like Havaiian Escapees have), with the ball just under the top of the box, would be easier to hitch and unhitch, and still not require the clearance through the rear part of the box that a fifth-wheel does.
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or just leave the cover attached to the coupler and remove it from the truck, cover and all would remain as one.
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Old 06-13-2015, 10:11 PM   #24
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or just leave the cover attached to the coupler and remove it from the truck, cover and all would remain as one.
That would take care of clearing the tonneau, but I think the original idea was mount the hitch high so the entire box can be filled with cargo. With cargo behind the hitch, there either needs to be a path left down the middle of it for the trailer tongue, or the trailer needs to be lifted clear of it... tonneau or not.

Also, the lower the ball, the bigger the space needed over it so the tongue can tilt side-to-side and front-to-back as the tug and trailer move in turns and over bumps.
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Old 06-14-2015, 10:39 AM   #25
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I have an aluminum diamond plate toolbox in the front of the bed AND IS 6-inches higher than the bed rails. No problem with clearance with the 5.0TA. I use a cargo bar behind the hitch and can fit two Rubbermaid Action Packers behind it. My lawn chairs slide under the toolbox and I can put a 5 gallon bucket with lid on either side of the hitch (Curt 16K). Loss of bed space is not really a problem.
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Old 06-17-2015, 10:53 PM   #26
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If you have a 5.0 and want nothing in your bed when you're not towing use a gooseneck turnover ball with a gooseneck to fifth wheel adapter.





Of if you're worried about trailer to cab clearance get an offset adapter...

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Old 06-18-2015, 09:28 PM   #27
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Some interesting creative ideas!

Thanks everyone for all the input on my original concept for towing a fifth wheel while using the full dry pickup bed. Someone raised a good point about a high hitch transferring more force to the tug. I think it all got too complicated for me, so I'm back on the 21 footer for now ...at least until I get to the factory and see a 5.0TA in person and can measure the hitch height. It would be relatively easy to install an elevated gooseneck hitch, but one might have to modify the towing arm on the trailer (whatever that's called) so that it was more horizontal and didn't drop so far in order to clear the top of the bed sides and tailgate by 4-6 inches. That would be a hassle. Anyhow, it's been a fun creative exercise for conspiring minds!
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Old 06-18-2015, 10:03 PM   #28
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I think you should buy the ETI build/layout that works best for you. Screw the truck bed problems When you're out camping, making memories and having a ton of fun... so what if you can't lay down a full sheet of plywood in the bed of your truck.

I've had the hitch in the bed of my truck for almost a full year, hasn't been a problem.. ever. If it is.. I'll rent a utility trailer from U-Haul. YMMV
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