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Old 01-15-2017, 08:16 AM   #1
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Is the V6 tacoma enough truck for the 21

I have a 2013 Tacoma v6 with tow package. I tow a 17sd casita with no problem. been thinking of a 19' but now i notice the 21 is only 190 lbs more. HMMM...
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:46 AM   #2
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The jury is still out on the weights, my new style 19 weighs more than my old style 21 did. If the Tacoma specifications are greater than 6,000 lbs you should be fine, with a proper hitch set up.
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:00 AM   #3
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Remember that options add weight. Our options, including air conditioning and solar, added 400+ pounds to the base weight of our 21'.
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:06 AM   #4
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Are the weights for the 19 ft and 21 ft listed on the Escape website accurate . The site shows the GVWR for the 19" at 5000 lbs and the GVWR for the 21' at 4500 lbs . What am I missing or not seeing ?
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I have a 2013 Tacoma v6 with tow package. I tow a 17sd casita with no problem. been thinking of a 19' but now i notice the 21 is only 190 lbs more. HMMM...
In my opinion - Yes. We towed a 17B with a 2008 V6 Tacoma with no problems at all and it would have had no problems with a 19 or 21. Also, IMO, you will want a WDH as the Tacoma rear springs are notoriously weak, and it makes for a much better ride.

We will be towing a 21 with a V6 Highlander, and have friends towing 19 and 21 with Highlanders. After talking with service managers at Toyota and my previous experiences with the brand, it is my belief that if Toyota rates a vehicle at 5000# tow rating, it will safely tow 5000#. This opinion is very much contrary to many here who believe you need far more capacity in the tow than your trailer's weight, so take this for what it is- my opinion.
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:20 AM   #6
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Are the weights for the 19 ft and 21 ft listed on the Escape website accurate . The site shows the GVWR for the 19" at 5000 lbs and the GVWR for the 21' at 4500 lbs . What am I missing or not seeing ?
Doesn't GVWR simply reflect how much the axle(s) is/are rated to carry? The 21' has two axles each rated to carry 2500 lbs totaling 5000 lbs. (I'm guessing then that the 19' has two axles each rated to carry 2250 lbs totaling 4500 lbs.) The weight of the camper plus contents can not exceed the GVWR. Isn't that all it means? As an example, the base weight for the 21' is 3140 lbs. We added 480 lbs of options to our 21' for a new total of 3620 lbs. That means we can still carry 1380 more pounds of stuff in/on our trailer before we reach the axle limit of 5000 lbs. Isn't that right?

See definitions posted on another popular forum:
Towing Definitions-Understanding Towing weight terms - Fiberglass RV
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The weight of the camper plus contents can not exceed the GVWR. Isn't that all it means?
That is my understanding also. Axles can have a higher weight rating but GVWR is for the actual trailer itself. ie a trailer could have dual axles both rated at 3000#, but the actual GVWR of the trailer might be #5000. There are other determining factors to the actual GVWR.

Same for a tow, which will also have a GCWR - total weight of tow, trailer and all contents of both.
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Are the weights for the 19 ft and 21 ft listed on the Escape website accurate . The site shows the GVWR for the 19" at 5000 lbs and the GVWR for the 21' at 4500 lbs . What am I missing or not seeing ?
The 21' is 5000 GVWR. The website has multiple errors.
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The 21' is 5000 GVWR. The website has multiple errors.
Thank you . I looked at the listed axle ratings and the GVWR didn't compute . Now it makes sense .
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I have a 2013 Tacoma v6 with tow package. I tow a 17sd casita with no problem. been thinking of a 19' but now i notice the 21 is only 190 lbs more. HMMM...
I forgot the mention about that 190# figure may no longer be accurate. When talking with Tammy to make all my calculations on GCWR with a 21 and our Highlander, she said that the 21 was changing the least in weight of all the trailers. That is due to the only real weight changes to the 21 were to extra reinforcement of the new side shape and the new awning. Tammy said that early in the production of the new 21, that the new 21 was showing weighs in the neighborhood of 100# more than the "classic" 21. What the exact change came out as will have to wait until they get time to update the website.
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