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Old 05-09-2014, 10:33 AM   #31
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Wheels are metal, tires are rubber. Easy peasy.
Thanks Donna, that's a helpful way to remember for the lesser automotively endowed.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:11 AM   #32
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Brian, calm down. It was simply mentioned that if in doubt replace with original equipment.
No, you said quite a bit more than that.

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If you're not comfortable with that as an alternative you need not participate?!?
Forums are discussion platforms. We don't have to agree.
True! Then why try to quash discussion? Don't answer - that was rhetorical...
My point was just that if someone is uncomfortable with discussion of some aspect of the trailer, then instead of trying to stop others from discussing it they have the option of just not participating.

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Why not use the tires ETI uses?
Because "the tires ETI uses" has changed, so that approach doesn't provide a clear answer. Because an owner may have preferences which don't match the average customer, and thus may want a variation from the standard. <Fill in your own reason here>

I don't see any problem with using either the tires that ETI used in 2004, or the different size that ETI uses today. One could use the same brand/model (Goodyear has only one ST model), and I see no problem with that. Personally, I would choose neither of those sizes for myself, and would choose a different type, but those original equipment specifications are perfectly good choices.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:16 AM   #33
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After all, we trust ETI with electrical, propane, solar, plumbing, breaks etc.
In fact, "we" (members of this forum) routinely discuss variations from ETI's design in most (perhaps all) of those areas. Electrical (wiring, converter/chargers, inverters, outlets...) and solar (panels, panel mounting, wiring from panels, controllers...) are two quite frequently discussed areas, and little of that discussion is simply documenting ETI's standard design or options.

I don't think discussion, or even the selection of alternate equipment, indicates any distrust of ETI or of anyone else.

I agree - tires are just like these other topics.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:21 AM   #34
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I think I've lost track of your point Brian.
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:35 PM   #35
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What size/type would you use Brian?
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:25 PM   #36
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What size/type would you use Brian?
Personally, for my similar-sized current trailer, I picked a commercial (not ST) 215/70R15; however, we are not currently using the trailer (not enough space) so I didn't buy the wheels and tires.

My original size was equivalent to the 205/75R14 of the 2004 Escape 17', and I wanted
  • slightly greater width (for better lateral response)
  • slightly less sidewall height (for greater lateral stability)
  • similar or only minimally greater overall diameter (to keep ride height down and avaid fit problems)
  • the higher speed rating and durable construction of a commercial-service tire
  • more tire capacity (per pair) than the 3500-pound axle capacity
  • the option of compatibility between the trailer and tug spare wheels&tires (with hub adapters)
A commercial (or LT or euro-metric 215/70R15 is the easiest solution to those requirements... which again are my preferences.

I realize that most owners would have different critera and thus choose differently. Also, I think the Escape 17' may have more room in the wheel wells than my Boler.

The use of non-ST tires on trailers is controversial, and I'll bow out of any discussion of that topic, as I believe that my participation would only lead others to cause problems in the forum.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:30 PM   #37
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....My original size was equivalent to the 205/75R14 of the 2004 Escape 17', and I wanted
  • slightly greater width (for better lateral response)
Hot Rodders call these "Big Meats." Wider width within the same vertical.
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Thanks for that info; in looking at Rolling Along Safely: A Tire Guide, it would seem that for a 17 Escape with single-axle that your suggestion may indeed be viable.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:36 AM   #39
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Thanks for all of your opinions. It's great to see such a lively discussion, filled with very good info. I just talked to ETI and they are currently using Carlisle Tires on all their trailers.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:54 AM   #40
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If ETI uses Carlisle tires on their new trailers then those are the ones I'd recommend.
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