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Old 10-08-2009, 10:12 AM   #31
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Perhaps changing the wording to "should you ever require emergency braking you WILL NOT be able to provide maximum braking" ?
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Old 10-09-2009, 02:53 PM   #32
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First of all I Towed my 17'er with a Nissan Frontier with no problems except one or no I guess it was two, Then I guess I shoulden't call them problems I should call them grandkids. Or where to put them! So I now pull with a crew cab Nissan Titan. I've pulled this trailer also with a Ford Windstar. I do use a WDH and prodigy controller. I followed the instructions from prodigy and then I decited to set the brakes so when you used them it felt no different slowing down then It did when the trailer was not being towed, I figured that way I would not have to get use to a different feel in braking every time I hooked up or unhooked from the trailer.
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Old 10-09-2009, 07:13 PM   #33
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Another towing question.

Talked to my mechanic today about pulling the 17B with my 09 Tacoma. He said the rear leaf springs are very wimpy and should be beefed up with an additional leaf inserted with some modification to the spring unit. He said it would raise the rear end a little and would handle much better with a firmer ride. Has anyone ever pursued anything like this? I know GaryH mentioned he pulls his 17B just fine with his FJ Cruiser. Do you think the suspensions are identical between these units? Any and all comments are greatly appreciated....Ron
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Old 10-09-2009, 08:07 PM   #34
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I checked with the local Toyota dealer about the rear suspension on Tacomas and they have a TSB (I think it adds another leaf) for '07's (might be for earlier models too). Apparently the cure results in a pretty harsh ride. Nothing for 08's or later. You should keep in mind what you are going to be towing. If your tow was going to be 4500 - 5500 lbs, you might have an issue with a "soft" rear suspension, but the weight of a 17 is what, about 1900 lbs?? Might be a good idea to get your trailer and see if there is a problem before you make any suspension changes. I have a '08 Tacoma and we are getting a 19' Escape. I will add a WDH, but based on the feedback of other Tacoma, RAV, Pilot, etc. owners on this forum, I am not anticipating any issues.
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Another towing question.

Talked to my mechanic today about pulling the 17B with my 09 Tacoma. He said the rear leaf springs are very wimpy and should be beefed up with an additional leaf inserted with some modification to the spring unit. He said it would raise the rear end a little and would handle much better with a firmer ride. Has anyone ever pursued anything like this? I know GaryH mentioned he pulls his 17B just fine with his FJ Cruiser. Do you think the suspensions are identical between these units? Any and all comments are greatly appreciated....Ron
I'm wondering if your mechanic was thinking of some of the old Toyotas? I had an '87 4Runner with lots of rear sag & had to add a new leaf spring. I did a (little) bit of searching this morning & found that the new 4Runner, Tacoma & FJ's all share the same frame, with some modifications for length. I don't think Toyota would put out a pickup that has weak springs. That being said, i admit i don't know too much on this whole issue. I do know that with my FJ, when i hook the trailer up, the rear goes down about 2". However, that's ok because when it's hooked up both the trailer & the FJ are sitting level (which is ideal). I think Ace Brown uses air bags on his FJ & is happy with them. Like others have said, best to wait untill the trailer is hooked up & take it for a drive before spending money on something that you may or may not need. Just my 2 cents, Gary
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Old 10-10-2009, 12:44 PM   #36
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First of all I want to thank you two for responding. My mechanic has quite a bit of experience with Tacoma rear suspensions. He mentioned the older models definitely have more than their share of suspension issues. He did crawl under and look at the leaf springs and commented that with my topper that is currently on and weighs approx. 140#, I was sitting close to the overload spring.

I experimented with putting about 280# on the tail gate and the measurement at the hitch dropped 2". Not sure if that really is an accurate way in judging the real thing. I think I'll hold off on any leaf changes until I get back. I do not want to make any changes if it isn't necessary. If you guys aren't having problems, that's what I want to hear. And because of weather conditions we will be coming straight back without using it, unfortunately. So it should be at is lightest weight. Again, thank you for your input....Ron
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Old 10-10-2009, 01:08 PM   #37
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RonS, when did you get Alf up on your tailgate?
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Honda has a way of rating the tongue weight by measuring the amount the hitch drops. The 4WD model is rated for 450 lbs, and they use the following as a guideline. Not sure how accurate it is. I imagine as the vehicle ages, and the suspension softens a wee bit, this might change a bit.

150 lbs (68 kg) - 5/8’’
250 lbs (114 kg) - 1 1/4’’
350 lbs (159 kg) - 1 3/4’’
450 lbs (205 kg) - 2 1/4"



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Old 10-10-2009, 01:55 PM   #39
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Now don't you be getting me in trouble. Having read earlier posts of Alf's I'm sure he is a very distinguished Canadian gentleman...Ron
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Now don't you be getting me in trouble. Having read earlier posts of Alf's I'm sure he is a very distinguished Canadian gentleman...Ron
I would say he most definitely is too. Thus worthy of picking on, once in a while.
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