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Old 03-22-2016, 08:50 PM   #191
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Thanks Jim B. I understand now that you were referring to window locations/relocations.
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Old 03-22-2016, 08:53 PM   #192
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For what it's worth I have worked on and replaced these windows and from a glaziers point of view they are pretty good. Have never seen any failures that haven't been caused by stupidity, rocks and a RV salesman.

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Old 03-22-2016, 08:54 PM   #193
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My wife thinks it look like a ball of Mozzarella cheese. And who doesn't love cheese!

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Old 03-22-2016, 08:56 PM   #194
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For what it's worth I have worked on and replaced these windows and from a glaziers point of view they are pretty good. Have never seen any failures that haven't been caused by stupidity, rocks and a RV salesman.

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Are you talking about the frameless style?
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Hmm...not very impressed. I've read on other forums the auto-awning is awful and breaks regularly. As for the windows, the window opening scissor mechanism comes unglued from the window, they fail to seal well and develop leaks. The door seems like an improvement but the screen door is awful. I have one on my current truck camper and it's always a pain. The latch doesn't hold, the door is open when you want it closed or vice versa. The dang slider to open the outside door is a pain. I hate it.

I still want an Escape, but I'm really hoping they haven't changed the 17ft the way they have the 19ft.

As for an Olympic Wave heater...I have the 6000 BTU model and it works great. No fan so no electric draw. It's in a pop up truck camper and I can say that on it's lowest setting of 3,000 BTU it will keep the camper about 30 degrees warmer than outside. On 6,000BTU it will have it at 80 in no time. If you only use a heater occasionally then I'd get the regular heater. They tend to warm up the camper quicker. But if you camp in cold weather regularly then get the Wave heater. Just my humble opinion.
Forgot interesting you mentioned the new frameless Windows as well as the awning ,after 1 year my brother had to have all the frameless Windows on his Winnebago replaced on his Class A because of problems . There is lots of information out there on these items anyone can find them . I can only speak for watching my brother having issues with these newer items . As for the door since I have experience with that . Pita. The slider is a lot better . I really don't care for the looks that are coming ,but that is just my opinion. Other may love it , nothing wrong with that . Bigger fresh water tank is great , lights etc. , some improvements . Instead of those items a better maybe aluminum frame and better step would of been better to improve . The Classic is a very nice looking trailer . I really don't think seeing this choice , I would of purchased . Really don't like it's look . That being said , I don't want to put anyone down who likes this new 2017 . It is good we all don't think alike . I was waiting for improvements and I am disappointed . If it was up to me I would grab the 2016 's . That is just my opinion. Pat
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For what it's worth I have worked on and replaced these windows and from a glaziers point of view they are pretty good. Have never seen any failures that haven't been caused by stupidity, rocks and a RV salesman.

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Hummm, I already have ONE window like this... kinda/sorta... hinged at the top. It's a double-pane egress window...with that blasted bar that digs in your back when it's open. Wonder how these new frame-less windows stay open? Interesting
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If you look at the pictures closely there is a tiny scissors latch at the bottom of the window that is between the wall and the glass.
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My wife thinks it looks like a ball of Mozzarella cheese. And who doesn't love cheese!

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That's great.
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Are you talking about the frameless style?

Yes

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Hummm, I already have ONE window like this... kinda/sorta... hinged at the top. It's a double-pane egress window...with that blasted bar that digs in your back when it's open. Wonder how these new frame-less windows stay open? Interesting
I guess that leads to the next question - egress window.
I wonder if it opens differently from the new style one on the other side or still similar to how the present egress window opens?

Sure would be nice to get rid of that egress window handle that you referred to Donna. Safety trumps comfort in that case I guess??
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