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Old 09-17-2017, 09:21 PM   #1
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Just wanted to introduce ourselves. We are a family of 4 in Ontario (kids are 10 and 8). Planning to place an order on a new 19 or 21 Escape soon, unless we find a used one in the next few months.

Love to hear your opinions. 19 or 21?
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Old 09-17-2017, 09:30 PM   #2
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Hi Derek! It was a pleasure meeting you and your family Saturday at the Niagara Wine Escape Rally. Based on your family's needs, I am sure you will make a wise choice. I will be happy to send you our build sheet if you wish. For us, the 21' was a good choice. Lots of room. Dining table sleeps two comfortably.


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Old 09-17-2017, 09:30 PM   #3
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Welcome, have you seen them in person?

What are you planning for a tow vehicle?
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Old 09-17-2017, 09:34 PM   #4
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I believe they were at the rally yesterday touring the units. Nice couple...
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Old 09-17-2017, 09:48 PM   #5
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Layouts of the 19 and 21 are pretty different. We all have unique needs so a lot depends on whether you think one or the other would suit you better. In our case, we liked having the queen bed in the back along with the bathroom location. Even with the slightly smaller trailer we felt we could accommodate 2 larger children and even 3 smaller ones in rare situations. We also figured that teenagers wouldn't want to be in either of these trailers with parents or grandparents, but would end up pitching a tent.

Both are great trailers, so you just have to do what makes the most sense for your situation.
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Old 09-17-2017, 10:36 PM   #6
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The options available on the 19 and 21 are pretty similar. At a high level I think the main reason to choose one or the other boils down to how much interior space you "need" vs how maneuverable you want to be while towing and finding campsites. Some people need to make a choice based on how much they can tow, but I'll assume that isn't the case for you given that you're asking this question.

Given that the expression "two foot-itis" exists, and there isn't a comparable catchy expression for downsizing trailers, as a general rule I feel anyone on the fence should more seriously consider the larger of their two sizes. We bought a 17b, but when we bought it we knew that it was the right size for us. Someday our 2 kids will get older and they may have their own opinion on the matter. We'll see. I'm guessing they'll go for the tent anyways.

If it makes a difference to you, the specs on ETI's website say the 21's bed is 4" wider than the 19' (44" vs 48"). Not sure if those are up to date for 2017.
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Old 09-17-2017, 10:47 PM   #7
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I'm going to have to agree with those who say they're very different. On paper, the trailers look similar, except for the bed and bath, but inside, they feel very different, at least to me. The 21 feels cavernous to me compared to a 19. I much prefer the 19 layout, but the only way you'll know which is right for you is to spend some time touring each of them.
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Old 09-17-2017, 10:50 PM   #8
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If it makes a difference to you, the specs on ETI's website say the 21's bed is 4" wider than the 19' (44" vs 48"). Not sure if those are up to date for 2017.
Bed, or Dinette? The 19 has a true queen bed - 60"x80".
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Old 09-17-2017, 10:55 PM   #9
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Bed, or Dinette? The 19 has a true queen bed - 60"x80".
Yes, I meant dinette. Probably both are a good size for 2 younger kids, but they do grow.
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Old 09-18-2017, 12:04 AM   #10
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Just wanted to introduce ourselves. We are a family of 4 in Ontario (kids are 10 and 8). Planning to place an order on a new 19 or 21 Escape soon, unless we find a used one in the next few months.

Love to hear your opinions. 19 or 21?
You can find some older threads on the 19' vs. 21' with all of the differences. The main one is the 19' having a queen bed. The 21' has a bigger bath and more counter and walking space. Most people may decide just on that info but there are other differences that count much more with some, such as not wanting the bed near the door on the 21'. We have a double curtain so no problem with that, but no curtains anymore with the newer units, I guess.
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Old 09-18-2017, 07:31 AM   #11
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One of the things that we appreciate about our 5TA (same width as the 21) is the ability to easily pass each other in the "aisle" - we had a 17b which is narrower than the 19- and never really liked the fact, that at times it was challenging- and we're relatively small people. But again, we were spending weeks at a time in it.
Not sure about heights -
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Old 09-18-2017, 07:41 AM   #12
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:41 AM   #13
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Hi Derek
It was nice to meet you and your wife and to get to show you our 21. Young folks with nice kids, getting serious about camping. I love it.
A Highlander and a 21
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Old 09-18-2017, 09:34 AM   #14
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...At a high level I think the main reason to choose one or the other boils down to how much interior space you "need" vs how maneuverable you want to be while towing and finding campsites...

Given that the expression "two foot-itis" exists, and there isn't a comparable catchy expression for downsizing trailers, as a general rule I feel anyone on the fence should more seriously consider the larger of their two sizes....
As noted, everyone has their own comfort level wrt to living space. Some people are quite comfortable in a very small space and are quite satisfied in a 19' or a trailer even shorter. Others are not as comfortable in a small space, and it is these people that you see moving on to bigger and longer trailers. There are many on this forum who have moved up from a smaller to a larger trailer. There are also some (albeit a smaller number of) people who have moved from a larger to a smaller trailer. I love the small spaces and recently purchased a 15' to complement our 19'. I could not see myself moving up to the 21', the extra space would be nice, but the floor plan doesn't really turn me on. However, if my dear wife ever comes around, I would seriously consider the 5.0TA, as the whole package really appeals to me. At the end of the day, those on this forum will give you their own opinions as to why they prefer big over small, or small over big, but you will need to make your decision based on your own preferences and needs.
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Old 09-18-2017, 11:38 AM   #15
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You can find some older threads on the 19' vs. 21' with all of the differences.

bookmarked for your convenience.

19 or 21 ft, pls provide your input
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:55 PM   #16
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Welcome to the forum, I was set to purchase the 19 but my wife said no way I was crawling over her in the middle of the night. She loved the storage in the 21 (happy wife happy life ) We are very happy with our choice but as others have said you have to find which size will work best for you. Happy hunting
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Old 09-24-2017, 10:55 PM   #17
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Thanks for all of the opinions. We were fortunate to be able to do a day trip to Niagara for the rally. Everyone was very welcoming and we were able to see all of the various trailers in person. That was a big help. Also, we were able to talk to current owners and discuss their likes/dislikes and modifications. Their invaluable experience was being given freely and we were very thankful for that. Looks like we'll be ordering something once the production schedule gets around to a July delivery. Still considering the sizes but leaning towards the 21.
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Old 09-24-2017, 11:28 PM   #18
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Thanks for all of the opinions. We were fortunate to be able to do a day trip to Niagara for the rally. Everyone was very welcoming and we were able to see all of the various trailers in person. That was a big help. Also, we were able to talk to current owners and discuss their likes/dislikes and modifications. Their invaluable experience was being given freely and we were very thankful for that. Looks like we'll be ordering something once the production schedule gets around to a July delivery. Still considering the sizes but leaning towards the 21.
What you've posted is HUGE. Honestly think anyone wafflin' between the 21' and the 5.0TA needs to step inside. Deciding on a layout AND truck vs. SUV can be HUGE.

My daily driver since 1991 has been a truck.. I'm a home owner, how does anyone transport yard debris, gravel and manure without a truck?
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Old 09-25-2017, 12:40 AM   #19
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I'm a home owner, how does anyone transport yard debris, gravel and manure without a truck?
You call up your buddy who has a truck.
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I had a mini-van and a Honda Element. Used a soft container to get rock and gravel and such.
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