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12-22-2019, 02:19 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Lanesboro, MN, between Whalan and Fountain, Minnesota
Trailer: 2016 Bigfoot 25RQ - (2018 Escape 5.0 sold)
Posts: 2,181
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
But the Escape comes with the propane heater included, no additional cost, in fact they may charge extra to eliminate it? It is not an option where it costs extra. just does not make sense.
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Everyone has different wants and needs, so it does if you have a electric heater, only camp at electric sites or in warm weather, and want the extra storage.
We had our Casita for 5 years, pulled easily 25,000 miles, loved the shoulder seasons, and didn't regret the lack of heater or the AC. We were working and had an electric oil heater for electric sites when cold.
Now that we're retired we travel with the wonderful Escape provided heater that let's you work outside at 3 am in 15 degree weather cleaning the sail switch. We also have our Honeywell 1500 watt heater, a Mr Buddy, and now a Martin catalytic heater, just in case that sail switch craps out again. The furnace and backups are our current wants and needs. YMMV.
Enjoy,
Perry
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12-22-2019, 02:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
But the Escape comes with the propane heater included, no additional cost, in fact they may charge extra to eliminate it? It is not an option where it costs extra. just does not make sense.
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While I wouldn't pass up on having a propane furnace, and wouldn't want to pay for one and not get anything, I do see why some people would choose to delete the furnace even with no price credit. They may want to - reduce trailer weight
- increase available storage space and/or free that space for an electric heater
- eliminate a shell opening for the vent/door
- eliminate a floor penetration for the propane line
- reduce the number of propane lines in the interior
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12-22-2019, 02:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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If they are that close to weight and space limits, they need another trailer. One drawer added space? No resale value for a unit that has to be hooked up
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12-22-2019, 02:50 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
If they are that close to weight and space limits, they need another trailer. One drawer added space? No resale value for a unit that has to be hooked up
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Resale value would be a problem in cold areas, but given that more than one brand of moulded fiberglass travel trailer has had at least some sales success without even offering the option of anything propane, there would apparently be a market in other other areas.
I didn't suggest that anyone was fixing an over-limit situation by omitting the furnace. Even if nowhere near trailer or tow vehicle limits, less mass is better. Various members here have reported clearing out excessive stuff carried in their trailers - one less cast-iron dutch oven or one omitted furnace, it's all mass.
Again, I wouldn't omit the furnace. I just understand that other people have different situations and priorities, and that it might make sense for them.
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12-22-2019, 02:51 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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There is camping, and there is parking.
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12-22-2019, 03:02 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21C
Posts: 3,033
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
If they are that close to weight and space limits, they need another trailer. One drawer added space? No resale value for a unit that has to be hooked up
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The Atwood furnace employed by Escape is relatively small with a weight of only 25 lbs
In order to increase the time frame that one can utilize their investment in an Escape trailer a furnace and A/C seems like a prudent investment
We owned a Scamp with the electric strip heater but no furnace . When we sold our Scamp the price reflected the lack of a furnace .
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12-22-2019, 09:35 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
I do see why some people would choose to delete the furnace even with no price credit. They may want to - reduce trailer weight
- increase available storage space and/or free that space for an electric heater
- eliminate a shell opening for the vent/door
- eliminate a floor penetration for the propane line
- reduce the number of propane lines in the interior
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Or maybe to install a different type/brand furnace in another location. Many out there tired of Dometic. I’m waiting for someone to utilize a Truma Combi, Truma Varioheat, or a Propex. Our original Atwood 8012 furnace works well so I haven’t been pushed into serious consideration yet.
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12-23-2019, 02:33 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilye
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Jon: Thanks for the links. The Truma Combi is complex but seems to be gaining some traction in North America. The Truma Varioheat provides space heating only and is much simpler in design. I like that it has 3 stages...4,700, 8,900 and 11,500 BTU/h. I would be seriously considering this if a replacement for our current furnace was ever needed.
https://www.truma.net/heating-system...MaAiRoEALw_wcB
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12-23-2019, 02:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Got an approximate price for Truma Varioheat with installation?
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12-24-2019, 12:58 PM
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#31
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Got an approximate price for Truma Varioheat with installation?
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No idea. If I did it I would try to procure one and install it myself.
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01-01-2020, 11:37 AM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Bend, Oregon
Trailer: 2018 ESCAPE19
Posts: 198
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
That's one way to solve the sail switch issue.
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You are hilarious.
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01-01-2020, 11:52 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19 "Seventy Degrees"
Posts: 3,495
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Egg Camper went to all-electric years back, but they also shut down a few years after shifting to that approach.
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01-01-2020, 02:25 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2
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vario heat
Looked on the web and found pricing from around $2,000.00 to as much as $2,179.00 . Wow. Makes our little $49.99 cube heater seem wonderful. Lee and Norma
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01-01-2020, 02:43 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,072
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg A
Egg Camper went to all-electric years back, but they also shut down a few years after shifting to that approach.
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No Egg Camper was always all electric. They shut down due to the age and health of the manufacturing owner. He was pretty much a one-man-band. Sounds like his family is 'attempting' to resurrect the business.
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01-01-2020, 04:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19 "Seventy Degrees"
Posts: 3,495
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Early Egg Campers originally had a propane option as we knew several of the owners that had it from the factory. There is also a 2006 discussed on FGRV if I recall that had come with gas from the factory.
Here is an archived sale unit w/pics from the owner that shows equipped with a propane stove:
http://www.viewrvs.com/travel-traile...ggcamper_a.php
At some point early on, he quit offering the propane and would only do all electric. Since not many were built probably most of them running around are going to be from the all electric years.
Some owners also did mod propane on to their Egg Campers after they had them for a bit.
It will be interesting to see if they resurrect it as it's been rumored for awhile now and hasn't advanced. It was a nice mold and had some nice features, so would like to see it produced again.
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01-01-2020, 04:47 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
No Egg Camper was always all electric. They shut down due to the age and health of the manufacturing owner. He was pretty much a one-man-band. Sounds like his family is 'attempting' to resurrect the business.
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If they do resurrect it I hope they add a propane system. While there may be a few people that are ok with all-electric it limits the flexibility of use. There are many posts of guys adding propane to their Egg Camper.
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01-01-2020, 05:06 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Fraser Valley, British Columbia
Trailer: 2012 Escape "Classic" 5.0 SA
Posts: 554
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2012 Escape "Classic" 5.0 SA / 2017 F150, 2.7 EcoBoost 4X4 Supercab
Former trailers: 2005 Escape 17B / 1972 Boler 13'
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01-01-2020, 06:13 PM
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#39
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: sharpsburg, Georgia
Trailer: 2015 casita
Posts: 2
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needs
while it is true everyone has different needs therefore i vote for getting every upgrade or gadget as in the long haul when or if you sell it a furnace could be a make or brake so therefore if you never use it get it anyway as its cheap
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01-01-2020, 07:14 PM
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#40
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: corrales, New Mexico
Trailer: looking to buy
Posts: 19
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WOW!!!! Lots of reaction for eliminating the furnace. We chose not to install one because we never used the ones that we had in our previous trailers. We live in New Mexico and travel in moderate weather most of the time, if not we find a campsite with electricity. Escape did give us a price reduction for eliminating the furnace, now we have more storage! Thank you Escape for allowing us to build the trailer that fits our needs. Not worried about resale because we are not going to sell any time soon.
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