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Old 04-02-2016, 01:48 PM   #31
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On a Forest River website / forum there was talk that Forest River is looking at offering a molded fiberglass trailer. Since Forest River
has the manufacturing capabilities , capital , and the economies of scale they maybe able to sell a fiberglass trailer at a very competitive price . Whether the quality will be there is a totally different question.
Hi: steve dunham... At least they're not owned by Thor... but what does Birkshire-Hathaway know about building them. Alf
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Old 04-02-2016, 02:20 PM   #32
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Hi: steve dunham... At least they're not owned by Thor... but what does Birkshire-Hathaway know about building them. Alf
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Forest River may presently lack the accumen to build a fiberglass trailer but I am sure they can hire someone with the requisite knowledge and skills. I would believe that Forest River / Birkshire- Hathaway is simply looking to expand their market and profits. The current
method of building / assembling fiberglass trailers is not the most efficient manufacturing process . If automobiles were assembled in the same method that our trailers are assembled most people could not afford to own a vehicle . I can see Forest River building fiberglass trailers on a large scale and on an assembly line with a lot lower cost per unit. If the quality of their fiberglass trailers matches the quality of their stick built trailers then they may not be very successful. IMHO
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I don't think the ability to build in moulded fiberglass is a problem for the major RV manufacturers. They already use large moulded fiberglass components - most trailers and motorhomes use moulded fiberglass endcaps. Although most RVs are built "inside out" (interiors are assembled on the RV floor, then the walls and roof are wrapped around) and that won't work in a moulded body, Forest River (and Thor, and lots of others) build Class B motorhomes. A Class B is a converted van, so the interior must be assembled within the already complete shell, just like a moulded fiberglass trailer (or an Airstream).

Several years ago in FiberglassRV there was a discussion of a new design which took a unique approach: the interior was built in the lower shell, then the upper shell was installed on top. This produced the worst of all worlds: it was heavy and full of wood (due to the extra interior structure needed), and had a poorly constructed body joint.

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The current method of building / assembling fiberglass trailers is not the most efficient manufacturing process . If automobiles were assembled in the same method that our trailers are assembled most people could not afford to own a vehicle . I can see Forest River building fiberglass trailers on a large scale and on an assembly line with a lot lower cost per unit.
Same for non-fiberglass trailers. Every RV plant that I've seen - in person and in photos - is an assembly line without any significant automation. I doubt Forest River (or Thor) would bring any cost efficiencies to moulded fiberglass trailer construction, except for volume purchasing.

Automobiles are made in vastly higher quantities so they can justify much more development and much more expensive tooling. Remember the GMC Motorhome of the 1970's. Bringing the capabilities of a major auto manufacturer to RV production resulted in a nice unit, but it was economically marginal. Cars are also subject to far more regulations, so they need to be more consistently and precisely constructed.
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Old 04-03-2016, 10:19 PM   #34
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Robert Johans just posted on FiberglassRV that Airstream has purchased Nest Caravans: Direct Link Introducing Nest Caravans - Page 11 - Fiberglass RV
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For consumers competition is good for a variety of reasons- not just for cost but for choices in design and features as well. The concept is interesting and remember Escape started with just one trailer - the 17. Wouldn't doubt this line gets expanded too.

I've found one feature in the Nest I like by looking closely at the spec sheet: a marine grade 2 burner cooktop. They use the Ramblewood marine/rv 2 burner and it has electric ignition via cordless 1.5V battery. RambleWood Equipment & Conslting Limited -- Products
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I wonder if ETI would install one of these? May have to ask....
I check into the Ramblewood when we had our 19' built. We wanted our cooktop rotated for more counter space and in thios configuration the counter was too narrow for it to fit. It needed a 24" deep cabinet and the 19' only has 22"
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Good news for Robert. Apparently he was also retained by Airstream as a consultant. I would imagine that Airstream will modify the design and/or features to suit their own ideas as to what is best, which may cause some conflict. Could be difficult for him to be involved in a smaller role with someone else calling the shots on things.
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I check into the Ramblewood when we had our 19' built. We wanted our cooktop rotated for more counter space and in thios configuration the counter was too narrow for it to fit. It needed a 24" deep cabinet and the 19' only has 22"
Unfortunately, I have the same issue with the Dickinson. I just have enough room to turn it, but the back burner would be too close to the wall for my liking, and seeing that is the big burner, it will likely get the big pots. I am fine with keeping it in the regular orientation though, as with the cutting board in place, it remains flush to the countertop.
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I received a notification of the sale by e-mail from Robert, as a follow-up to earlier correspondence.

Strangely, neither the Nest Caravans website nor the Airstream website has any announcement. Maybe if corporate communications departments stopped playing on Twitter and Facebook they would have time to present clear and authoritative information.
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Maybe if corporate communications departments stopped playing on Twitter and Facebook they would have time to present clear and authoritative information.

So true. Sometimes I think I'm their quest to be "social media savvy" they forget the normal means.
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