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Old 03-29-2016, 01:22 AM   #11
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Didn't we all order the 2016? Aren't we all waiting? But shouldn't we, all soon to be 2016 owners, be grateful ETI gives us the choice between "old" or "new"? Have some faith, be a little patient! And appreciate a little more all the hard work in progress instead of complaining!
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Old 03-29-2016, 06:52 AM   #12
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Reace,

I guess this means that ordering the 21 will be essentially blind. I'm guessing here that the outside is basically a longer 19, and you had stated earlier, in another thread that the interior wasn't changing much. So I can still go ahead on 01 April (if I get through) and place an order to get into the production schedule.

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I fail to see any blindness, the exteriors are alone identical other than length and the windows would be the same, no interior changes except for sink and stove which will be up soon. I'm sure if you are dissatisfied next month, ETI will accommodate you.
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Old 03-29-2016, 12:45 PM   #14
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I fail to see any blindness, the exteriors are alone identical other than length and the windows would be the same, no interior changes except for sink and stove which will be up soon. I'm sure if you are dissatisfied next month, ETI will accommodate you.
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Quite basically that is what I said, and I doubt I will find myself dissatisfied. Peace, Steve M
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Old 03-29-2016, 12:48 PM   #15
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I guess no one picked up on my "failure to see blindness" comment......?? I thought it was sly.
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Old 03-29-2016, 12:53 PM   #16
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Didn't we all order the 2016? Aren't we all waiting? But shouldn't we, all soon to be 2016 owners, be grateful ETI gives us the choice between "old" or "new"? Have some faith, be a little patient! And appreciate a little more all the hard work in progress instead of complaining!
Marry,

My thing is that I haven't ordered at all. I'm not really complaining I just wish that the 21 molds were ready. I know Reace doesn't have the control on this he probably wishes he did. Anticipation and excitement is what I have right now. Things will happen when they happen . I will be ordering as I said on the 1st of April with everyone else . I don't think that I will be disappointed by Reace or anyone at ETI. Now my only worry will be getting a production slot .

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Old 03-29-2016, 12:55 PM   #17
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I guess no one picked up on my "failure to see blindness" comment......?? I thought it was sly.
Lol...... you are sly !!
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Old 03-29-2016, 12:55 PM   #18
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I sympathize with these people and their frustration trying to make a major purchase and not having all the pictures to view (they are trying to make a decision "blind"). And I feel they have every right to complain as it may help them come to a reasonable accommodation.


ETI has shown that they try to resolve complaints and folks that don't complain will not see any action. My hope is that ETI will extend the April 1st 'action' date by at least a day for every day these folks wait for complete information to make a decision, pictures and documentation of the 2017 models.


In my personal experience with ETI I told them we did not want to have a trailer built with a weak refrigerator. I was assured it would all work out and we picked up our new 2014 19'. Many people assured me on this Forum that "I" should trust ETI.


A year later, after a trip to ETI and $250. dollars my RML was swapped to a RMD which is still 'weak' but not as bad as the RMD. And now, in 2017 the 19' gets a bigger door and new refrigerator model.


ETI does it's best to choose components to install in their trailers and I blame the manufacturer of the refrigerator, Dometic, for selling it to them. ETI trusted Dometic and should ... Dometic let them down.


The 2017 models will have strengths and weakness's ... having pictures and documentation of features and option allow the purchaser the flexibility of choice. When I saw the pictures I thought 'whoops' the new 19' won't have a refrigerator problem .. but maybe an awning problem ... time will tell.


After my experience with our 2014 19' purchasing experience I feel these folks have a right to complain, research, etc. to their heart's content. It's too much money on the table to simply 'trust' any company. And this Forum should be a place they are free to express themselves and hopefully find what makes them comfortable parting with their cash and hitting the road!
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I sympathize with these people and their frustration trying to make a major purchase and not having all the pictures to view (they are trying to make a decision "blind"). And I feel they have every right to complain as it may help them come to a reasonable accommodation.


ETI has shown that they try to resolve complaints and folks that don't complain will not see any action. My hope is that ETI will extend the April 1st 'action' date by at least a day for every day these folks wait for complete information to make a decision, pictures and documentation of the 2017 models.


In my personal experience with ETI I told them we did not want to have a trailer built with a weak refrigerator. I was assured it would all work out and we picked up our new 2014 19'. Many people assured me on this Forum that "I" should trust ETI.


A year later, after a trip to ETI and $250. dollars my RML was swapped to a RMD which is still 'weak' but not as bad as the RMD. And now, in 2017 the 19' gets a bigger door and new refrigerator model.


ETI does it's best to choose components to install in their trailers and I blame the manufacturer of the refrigerator, Dometic, for selling it to them. ETI trusted Dometic and should ... Dometic let them down.


The 2017 models will have strengths and weakness's ... having pictures and documentation of features and option allow the purchaser the flexibility of choice. When I saw the pictures I thought 'whoops' the new 19' won't have a refrigerator problem .. but maybe an awning problem ... time will tell.


After my experience with our 2014 19' purchasing experience I feel these folks have a right to complain, research, etc. to their heart's content. It's too much money on the table to simply 'trust' any company. And this Forum should be a place they are free to express themselves and hopefully find what makes them comfortable parting with their cash and hitting the road!
well said Klem and my thoughts also ! thumb:Pat
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Old 03-29-2016, 02:18 PM   #20
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Boy, I just don't understand the problem here...I guess I'm obtuse. If one is uncomfortable ordering something then don't order it until you have all the facts you need. I don't see any "blindness" either as the exterior picture has been posted and the comments have been made that the interior construction changes are minimal. Other than the medicine cabinet and change in the awning (and change to SS stove and sink), what's left to know? Those who have ordered the 2016 model don't have to change a thing (they're only putting the pressure on themselves) if they don't want to although I find that an unexpected and surprising option that ETI has offered.
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