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Old 02-11-2014, 06:02 AM   #51
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... and because a fifth-wheel doesn't need safety chains.


You won't be able to do that with the fifth-wheel - you will need to pull out to release the trailer to move vertically. Of course, if you pull straight out a short distance, and don't move the truck until you hook up to leave, it should be trivial to line up for hitching (just go straight back). I suppose if you go a really short distance (like one foot) you might be able to leave the electrical cable and breakaway cable connected, as I assume you do with the Scamp.
No, on the Scamp I disconnect everything. I just don't move the truck. In fact, it tows so level, even when disconnected it doesn't come off the ball unless I raise the tongue enough to slip the truck away. Then I have to lower the tongue to get back to level.

So, on a 5er, the hitch can't be released and the trailer raised without moving the truck? Interesting...
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:23 AM   #52
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Yes. ... In NV, trailers have to be in the back yard or inside a building in winter...
You fooled me there for a minute. Thought you were equating NV with "Nevada", but it appears you meant "North Vancouver".
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Old 02-11-2014, 10:22 AM   #53
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So, on a 5er, the hitch can't be released and the trailer raised without moving the truck? Interesting...
Generally, no.

The pin shape is such that it can come out of the hole in the hitch plate, but the latching jaw design may not permit this even when fully opened (depending on hitch model), and it definitely is not the way these hitches are intended to work.

If the latch allows it and you lift the trailer out, it may be difficult to get back in because the hole and pin are not tapered to make this easy (in contrast to putting the bell-shaped coupler on a round ball), and because the hitch plate tilts.

You could always just lift the truck as required for leveling with the trailer jacks... no, kidding. : But seriously, with air springs in the truck you could level with those instead of trailer jacks on quick stops, and not unhook anything at all.
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I have used the air bags and on board compressor to level the trailer for a quick over night stop. Or at least to get it close enough. I rarely un hook anything if we are just stopping to
Sleep . If its raining out I have just done it in the morning
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Generally, no.

The pin shape is such that it can come out of the hole in the hitch plate, but the latching jaw design may not permit this even when fully opened (depending on hitch model), and it definitely is not the way these hitches are intended to work.

If the latch allows it and you lift the trailer out, it may be difficult to get back in because the hole and pin are not tapered to make this easy (in contrast to putting the bell-shaped coupler on a round ball), and because the hitch plate tilts.
Groan, I have so much to learn...
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Groan, I have so much to learn...
On the other hand, if you don't worry about the "why", the "what" is straightforward: trailer level with hitch, back in to hitch, pull forward to unhitch... fundamentally simple.
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