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Old 08-21-2014, 05:25 PM   #31
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Hi: Jim Bennett... The speed that most folks here in S. Wet Ontario drive at, tells me that the price of fuel is still too cheap!!! Alf
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We just need vehicles that go fast, and are still economical.

For many working types, the cost of fuel used by going faster, is more than worth it if they compare it to their costs in time. Not factoring in the costs of tickets should they get them.
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Old 08-21-2014, 05:26 PM   #32
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$1.37 to $1.42 litre according to gasbuddy.com in the Vancouver area.
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Old 08-21-2014, 05:29 PM   #33
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I think this is finally happening, not just in BC. The attitude by many that bigger is better, and more safer, is slowly giving way to paying attention to fuel consumption. Big is necessary for some uses, but definitely not all. How many pickups, both big and small, are out there, still being used as commuters, rarely hauling any kind of load? Still too many.

Jim, I hope you are right, but here in the states it seems that the SUV has become almost the standard size vehicle.
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Old 08-21-2014, 05:31 PM   #34
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I recently read that diesel represents over 20% of VW sales. With some models much higher such as the Jetta, Jetta Sport Wagon, and Touareg (over 50%).
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Old 08-21-2014, 05:34 PM   #35
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Jim, I hope you are right, but here in the states it seems that the SUV has become almost the standard size vehicle.
I am glad you raised this point, as it was on my mind. Many of my close friends in the US seem to drive Suburbans, or like sized SUVs, not just the smaller mid-sized ones. Only one I know pulls a trailer, and they just got it after many years of owning the vehicle.
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Old 08-21-2014, 05:53 PM   #36
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I know a lot of folks who own larger then really needed vehicles but for the most part they use them to travel and haul all the associated stuff. I used to have a 80s Blazer and to go on vacation back home in Maine with the then wife and my 2 kids for 2 weeks it was very tightly packed. When I went and took my dogs with me I had to rent a mini van no way would it fit in my Blazer. Perhaps the same is true with others flying is two expensive for a family of four plus car rental etc . Just a thought. I think the SUV has replaced the family wagon :} Though given a choice I would take a Chevy Concours wagon in an instant as a tug:}
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Old 08-21-2014, 05:55 PM   #37
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I am glad you raised this point, as it was on my mind. Many of my close friends in the US seem to drive Suburbans, or like sized SUVs, not just the smaller mid-sized ones. Only one I know pulls a trailer, and they just got it after many years of owning the vehicle.
Yep - and they frequently fly past me (in our new Corolla that gets almost 40 mpg on the highway), even if I am going over the speed limit. My wife's sisters have them and say they like being up to high in traffic.
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:42 PM   #38
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I am fortunate to use a Honda CR-Z hybrid for local driving at 43 mpg. Towing the Escape with a GMC Acadia gave us 15.5 mpg towing 6,700 miles back from Chilliwack. I know that the hybrid doesn't make economic sense, but gives me some "good feelings" wnen I buy gas.
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:53 PM   #39
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I recently read that diesel represents over 20% of VW sales. With some models much higher such as the Jetta, Jetta Sport Wagon, and Touareg (over 50%).
Thanks - I was just going on anecdotal evidence (what I notice on the road), so it's good to have real numbers. What they show, of course, is that most VWs are not diesel, and even in the models for which diesel is a popular choice, almost half still go with gas. We're a long way from the European situation, which is why I still wonder just how successful the smaller diesel pickups will be.
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:56 PM   #40
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I just about choked last weekend going to Salmon Arm, in BC, and seeing the fuel costs. Good thing I only had to do one partial fill.
Jim, since you're using Gas Buddy you have probably noticed this, but the sweet spot for fueling up going through B.C. is the Kamloops area. I plan my stops to fill just before leaving Alberta, and then within 100 km of Kamloops, then again outside of the core Vancouver area. Practicality of this depends on vehicle range, of course, and if you were to take a southern route across B.C. you would never touch the Kamloops area.
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