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Old 06-11-2015, 11:28 AM   #31
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The tires installed on my Escape 21:
Brand: CARLISLE; Radial Trail RH, DuraTrail
Size: ST205/75R15
Load Range: “C” (1820lbs)
Max Pressure: 50psi (cold)

Some information from the CARLISE site:
Tires last longer when properly maintained and heat is the #1 killer. Heat is produced during normal towing. Towing at high speeds in hot weather and towing with under-inflated tires adds significantly to that #1 killer.

Most ST tires are rated to tow up to 65 mph and it’s a good practice not to go over 60. Tires under-inflated by 30% reduces tire life about 55%.

Tires should be kept inflated to their max pressure, (50 psi in my case) and that includes the spare. They should be checked when cold and in the shade, like in the morning. I compared my tire pressure in the morning with the afternoon. The difference was about 5 psi, or 10%, here in Western Washington. Under inflated tires will also reduce fuel efficiency up to 10%. Over inflated tires are more subject to cuts and punctures and failures due to sudden impact (like pot holes).

There is a great deal more information on their site, if anyone is interested just go there or send me a PM and I'll send you my shortened version.
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Old 06-11-2015, 12:33 PM   #32
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New Carlisle tires in our size and model are N rated - 87 mph. Faster than I care to tow.

Carlisle Radial Trail RH speed rating over 65mph - TundraTalk.net - Toyota Tundra Discussion Forum

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tir...MCINT&pc=10403
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Old 06-11-2015, 01:24 PM   #33
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Sorry Jamman, I've looked multiple places and I just can't find a speed rating anywhere except for the links you've provided. There's nothing on the tires or on the Carlisle tire site, except for the 65 mph max for most ST tires and a recommendation to not tow over 60 mph.
I'll keep looking, let me know if you find any other defining information.
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Old 06-11-2015, 01:51 PM   #34
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In the first link the copied communication is "signed" by Tony Coffield, who appears to be at Carlisle.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-coffield/17/68/5ba
The Carlstar Group

In any event the rated 65 +10 for lightly loaded tires is good enough for me.
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Old 06-11-2015, 02:19 PM   #35
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Thanks jamman, that's the same site I got my information from. I'll have to read closer.
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Old 06-11-2015, 10:24 PM   #36
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When it comes to hydroplaning, it's the steering wheels I'm concerned about. The rest just tends to follow. Never experienced hydroplaning while towing though.
For the rest of the tires to follow, they need lateral traction. Imagine if your trailer tires were replaced with casters, which hold the trailer up but pivot any way the trailer wants to go - how controllable would that be? Anyone who has driven in winter conditions should be aware that the rear tires do not simply follow the front, and those who have done this with front wheel drive should realize that even without being driven the rear tires are important to maintaining directional control. I'm not suggesting towing in winter (although that is quite practical if you so desire) - it's just that ice is so much more common here and so much more severe a traction problem that it is a good illustration of the same issues raised by hydroplaning.

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especially in front wheel drive cars. Does anybody tow with a front wheel drive tug?
Lots of people tow with front wheel drive, although due to the availability of vehicles with adequate towing capacity it has become common to use SUVs (which tend to have various four wheel drive systems) and pickup trucks (which tend to be rear wheel drive with optional part-time four wheel drive), and so front wheel drive is not the most common. Our trailer tug is a Toyota Sienna van, which is front wheel drive. It works fine.

Most strictly front wheel drive tugs have a towing capacity of up to 3500 pounds, making them suitable and commonly used for smaller moulded fiberglass travel trailers (see FiberglassRV for examples); however, many Escape models are too heavy for that so only 17-foot and smaller Escapes (and most of those are 17-foot) are likely to have a front-wheel-drive tug.
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Old 06-11-2015, 10:38 PM   #37
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Interesting... I'll believe it when I see it on a sidewall, but it sounds promising, unlike the typo on the same Discount Tire website that previously and completely incorrectly billed many Carlisle ST tires as "R" speed rated.
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