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Old 01-29-2016, 04:27 PM   #91
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Thanks for your post, Tom

Interesting to learn the background of the term 'old bag'. In some ways similar to the term 'rule of thumb.' It's used every once in awhile today and comes from way back when a husband could use a stick as thick as his thumb to beat his wife. Today when I read the phrase the original meaning runs through my mind. I suppose you are going to still be offended when Glenn uses the phrase. Perhaps knowing the background to his use of the enduring term may help. One thing I've learned about online forums is that every once in awhile things flare up and then settle down. In some ways so long as people keep showing up and letting things blow over life goes on.


Anyway, like you I am waiting for Spring and the camping season.

I plan to retire in midMarch and we had planned a trip East onto the Praries where I really want to see bison on the plains of Grasslands National Park. However, those plans have been rudely impacted by two sister's (one of mine and one of Liz's) who have been diagnosed with cancer. One sister was fine over Xmas and has been given a 4-6 month diagnoses. All that to say, we've had to hold some travel plans quite lightly and be ready to change them.

So we are learning to not sweat the small stuff.

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Old 01-29-2016, 07:20 PM   #92
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Since you asked. I have no problem with Jim, if you mean cpaharley. Always a positive.

But I can think of no better example of how poorly moderators serve the interests of Escape owners than Donna. When ETI announced changes to the furnace location in the 21 with resulting loss of storage, owners-to-be were negative. Donna immediately told the prospective owners they were wrong, that the changes were good, that they would like the trailer better. Luckily for the buyers ETI listened to them, altered the plans, and presumably reached a good solution.

Moderators are useful. Censors are not.
Donna? Seriously?

A real fine thanks for all the time they VOLUNTEER to managing this forum.

At this point I am all for censorship and can not help but wonder why a moderator does not upheld the forum rules and delete the offending posts, including the one that started this discussion.

Sincerely hope that nether Glenn nor Donna decide they have had enough already!
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My inclination is to let stuff run the course and fade away, unless it really gets out of hand.
The positives in this thread have way outnumbered the negative.
So, thanks to most all.
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Donna? Seriously?

A real fine thanks for all the time they VOLUNTEER to managing this forum.

At this point I am all for censorship and can not help but wonder why a moderator does not upheld the forum rules and delete the offending posts, including the one that started this discussion.

Sincerely hope that nether Glenn nor Donna decide they have had enough already!
It's real simple. Posts often are about the character of the poster and less about the individual targeted. Donncha think?
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Very well stated ....
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Donna - you nailed it! And many thanks to the moderators doing for a thankless task!
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It's real simple. Posts often are about the character of the poster and less about the individual targeted. Donncha think?
Revenge of the site team! I think they have lost their way.

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Interesting to learn the background of the term 'old bag'. In some ways similar to the term 'rule of thumb.' It's used every once in awhile today and comes from way back when a husband could use a stick as thick as his thumb to beat his wife. Today when I read the phrase the original meaning runs through my mind.
It looks pretty clear after some online research that "rule of thumb" did not originally mean this, has never meant this to most people, and doesn't mean this now (in my world, or according to Merriam-Webster)... but if that's what you think of, you'll find the phrase offensive. Since I recall that the unit of measurement of an inch was derived from the size of a thumb (officially the thumb of the King of England), the idea of approximation and quick reference is obvious so I don't go looking for more sinister meanings.

I don't associate "bag" with anything obscene, and online material such as the Stack Exchange discussion of the origin of "old bag" doesn't suggest such an association.

I don't think an author - even baglo - can be held responsible for the reader's incorrect and unintended application of a rare or incorrect interpretation of an innocent phrase. I'll add one more to my earlier list of lessons:
  • Given a number of potentially intended meanings for something in a post, it makes sense to assume the most relevant or innocent, not the most offensive. This is a complement to "When you hear hoof beats, think of horses not zebras."
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Thank you Klem.
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and since the original poster has expressed his regret in making that statement, lets close this thread
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