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08-08-2018, 01:44 PM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: FORT PIERCE, Florida
Trailer: 2018 5.0
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This is another pet peeve. the space is not well laid out the surge protector could be placed (say behind the batteries) to open the area up for storage rather than sitting in the middle of the compartment.
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08-08-2018, 02:03 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kfsmith
This is another pet peeve. the space is not well laid out the surge protector could be placed (say behind the batteries) to open the area up for storage rather than sitting in the middle of the compartment.
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Keep in mind that some of the locations are determined by things like accessibility to controls or for weight distribution purposes.
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08-08-2018, 02:51 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Fremont, California
Trailer: 2016 21/ '16 Tundra 4.6L Dbl. Cab
Posts: 1,564
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike G
Thanks for the great info so far, everyone. Steve, what's it like to access that valve under the bed? Easy or hard?
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Mike, Just as Dave said, the valves are very accessible. They can be reached by lifting the hinged bed platform or by reaching in from the standard cupboard door at the foot of the bed. I have to confess though, I turned the valves “On” in April 2016 and have never turned them off. We are lucky not to winterize in the Bay Area of Ca.
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2016 - 21'
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08-08-2018, 04:14 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Emerson, Manitoba
Trailer: 2016 Escape 5.0TA, 2022 F150 2.7EB
Posts: 1,848
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kfsmith
This is another pet peeve. the space is not well laid out the surge protector could be placed (say behind the batteries) to open the area up for storage rather than sitting in the middle of the compartment.
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Looks like they changed the position of the surge protector. Ours is tight up against back corner just below the removable power cord plug in box. I could use that space between batteries and water heater for storage but have not needed it as yet. We find there's much more storage than the old five and like Alf said more accessible with outside hatch.
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We are all travellers in the wilderness of this world, and the best we can find in our travels is an honest friend.
Robert Louis Stevenson
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08-08-2018, 04:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,038
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike G
I'd like to know what objects/accessories ETI installs underneath the dinette seats and the beds. In other words, for each model of Escape, what do they put in, and exactly where? Looking at pictures of the interiors, one cannot use x-ray vision to tell how much space is taken up, how the accessory/device/thing is accessed, and so on.
Having all of this in one thread also would be useful for shoppers, I think, as they ponder which unit to get.
Just to give an example of my thought processes, if someone wanted to have their bed up front in a 17 or 19, and if there's some gadget (or even open storage space) underneath that, maybe it becomes more beneficial to ask for a side door on the seat cabinet or an exterior hatch... but it's hard to know ahead of time.
Thanks, all!
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Hi: Mike G... I think there's a troll lurking under the bed in our 5.0TA. Most likely a thin one but related to Rip V. Winkle. I get a better sleep in the trailer than I do at home. Being away from the "Honey do" list and having no "Round to it's" could be somewhat to blame. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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08-08-2018, 05:43 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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On Escape's website are .pdf files showing measurements as well as location of various standard as well as optional items, including outlets both12v and 120v and readouts for solar and ems. This may help those who have never been inside an Escape.
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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08-08-2018, 09:36 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Trailer: 2012 E19
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Jim, I checked the ETI website before posting this thread. The pdf files don't appear to show stuff like converter, water tank, water heater, etc. Which is why I asked. For example, here's the 17B schematic: escapetrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/17BFloorplanwithMeasurements.pdf I can see the converter under the rear dinette in one of the photos, though. And I gather that the black tank will take up much of the driver's side front dinette bench. Is there another schematic I missed seeing?
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08-09-2018, 12:41 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike G
The pdf files don't appear to show stuff like converter, water tank, water heater, etc.
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Is there another schematic I missed seeing?
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No. While there are helpful "standard locations" drawings for the 19', 21', and 5.0TA which show electrical equipment (including the converter location), they don't show other components under the seats and beds... and there isn't a corresponding drawing for the 17'.
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08-09-2018, 04:45 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: None, sold my 2014 5.0TA
Posts: 7,124
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Does anyone have a shot with the push-in power cord? We've not seen how that changes things, if it does.
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08-09-2018, 05:47 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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I already purchased the slip on quick disconnect Marinco collar that works with the new power cord to take with me for pick up. The stock is a PITA to work with. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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08-09-2018, 06:50 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilola
Escape Artist, what's under the rear bench seat in the dinette?
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Hi: Hilola... I did find another pic that shows the rear bench under the dinette table. Keep in mind the early 5.0TA's didn't have a raised floor in the dinette area. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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08-09-2018, 07:34 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Tehachapi, California
Trailer: none
Posts: 515
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Quote:
Originally Posted by escape artist
Hi: Hilola... I did find another pic that shows the rear bench under the dinette table. Keep in mind the early 5.0TA's didn't have a raised floor in the dinette area. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Thanks, Alf. I have the same little step stool btw, very handy and lightweight!
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Formerly owned a 2007 24' HiLo/ 2003 Tahoe combo. Interested in the 5.0TA
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08-09-2018, 10:28 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Emerson, Manitoba
Trailer: 2016 Escape 5.0TA, 2022 F150 2.7EB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by escape artist
Keep in mind the early 5.0TA's didn't have a raised floor in the dinette area. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Alf did you find when you got the TA you kept trying to step down from the dinette area even though there's no step? We certainly did until we got used to the flat floor
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Adrian (and Beth)
We are all travellers in the wilderness of this world, and the best we can find in our travels is an honest friend.
Robert Louis Stevenson
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08-15-2018, 12:59 PM
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Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Boulder, Colorado
Trailer: 2017 19 Escape
Posts: 200
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike G
I'd like to know what objects/accessories ETI installs underneath the dinette seats and the beds. In other words, for each model of Escape, what do they put in, and exactly where? Looking at pictures of the interiors, one cannot use x-ray vision to tell how much space is taken up, how the accessory/device/thing is accessed, and so on.
Having all of this in one thread also would be useful for shoppers, I think, as they ponder which unit to get.
Just to give an example of my thought processes, if someone wanted to have their bed up front in a 17 or 19, and if there's some gadget (or even open storage space) underneath that, maybe it becomes more beneficial to ask for a side door on the seat cabinet or an exterior hatch... but it's hard to know ahead of time.
Thanks, all!
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Well it depends which part of the world u live in:
In the SW USA, rattlesnakes
Florida, small gators
Midwest, cottonmouths
New England, brown recluse spiders
Yukon, bears
BC, nice photo of Escspe production crew?
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09-09-2018, 08:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 259
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The lids on the storage under the table benches, are to narrow.
Also the frame work under the seats takes up valuable space.
The benches are constructed of 3/8” plywood.
I removed the bench tops and constructed new benches from 5/8” plywood.
With this option, the support frames are not required.
I also made the portion of the cover that lifts 16 1/2” wide.
I can now use Rubbermaid storage bins in the space.
This is an advantage on the side with the electrical panel, I worry about damage and shorting of the wires.
Doug
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09-09-2018, 11:24 PM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 - "Felicity"
Posts: 2,945
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If you look at the exterior photos on the website, the power entry point is where the converter and EMS are installed. The louvered round vent is where the battery is located if inside. The water heater is located behind the square metal panel with vents on one portion. The furnace location is the only round open vent on the trailer.
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02-17-2024, 02:03 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Trailer: 2012 E19
Posts: 1,769
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I'm reviving an old thread to ask another question. My 2012 19' has the electrical stuff under the driver's side front dinette seat, but there is also a plywood surface overtop of something. What is that 'something' under the plywood? I'm trying to decide if I can put a couple of screws into that wood without damaging whatever is underneath. Does this have something to do with the toilet?
BTW, the front face of that boxed-in area is not plywood but appears to be a piece of the thin cabinet-facing stuff; it has the same oak finish as my cabinetry.
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02-17-2024, 03:23 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Overbrook, Kansas
Trailer: 2021 E19 (Padawan)
Posts: 2,049
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My 2021 E19 has the black tank there, so screws no longer than the ply is thick. Probably 1/2”, but I’d recommend measuring first.
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1998 C 2500 (Cruncher) and 2021 Ranger (Yoda)
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02-17-2024, 05:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Madison area, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2016 Escape 19 Chevy 2012 Express 3500 Van
Posts: 1,768
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Try an alternative fastening method
Screws are not advised. Adhesives, double sided tape, something like that is advised.
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02-17-2024, 07:22 PM
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#40
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
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Screws are fine as long as you test how much they protrude past whatever you're screwing down.
Ron
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