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Old 06-29-2016, 11:11 PM   #71
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I like that feature.

Hmm, that gets me thinking, and that's sometimes not a good thing. I have some left over push-pull solenoids. Maybe I could use one of those to do the same thing and save having to do the exterior lock and unlock routine.

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Hi Ron take a look at Rob and Linda's Airstream cooking vent . Where do you get that one ? They are forum members they had the Casita that Rob made their own , sold it . Someone was very lucky .Pat
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Old 06-30-2016, 10:37 AM   #72
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...It gets you a quieter 3 speed fan with much greater capacity, an LED light with two levels of brightness and a slide damper that is indoors (eliminating the outside flapper that must be secured). Note that original fan and light switch on face of hood stay intact and new switches for fan speed and LED brightness are on the new fan enclosure.

www.billgehr.com/images/TL_2015-04_Overhead_Overhaul.pdf
Some more information since I spoke with the owner Larry at Fabulous Operating Products at length this morning. His brother was the originator of the Fan-Tastic fan that many know as the competitor with Maxx Fan. He indicated that the fan capacity is such that only low needs to be used for cooking and that medium and high can be used to ventilate the entire trailer. They have contemplated an entire range hood, but it was a matter of resources as it involves several sizes and finishes. I ordered one of the retrofit kits and will post how the install goes.

For anyone concerned with noise it should be noted that the fan design itself allows for the greater airflow with LESS noise. These are some non-scientific numbers (iPhone app) from someone who installed the kit.
· Original Fan 72 db (Ventline PH)
· SAM-1 Fan on low 58 db
· SAM-1 Fan on medium 60 db
· SAM-1 Fan on high 62 db
· Background was 48 db
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Old 06-30-2016, 10:52 AM   #73
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I ordered one of the retrofit kits and will post how the install goes.
Very much looking forward to hear your evaluation of this unit. I imagine it could be built into the cabinets too, we have done that lots which fan units for homes.
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:06 PM   #74
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Thank you very much for the info on the retrofit kit Dave!

I spoke to Larry for some time just a while ago. Nice guy. I went ahead and ordered the retrofit kit as well.

Looking forward to lights that actually illuminate the cooking area, better and quieter fan, and a damper I can close from inside the trailer.

Be aware that with these Heng's hoods used on Escapes (based on a Jensen design) there may be spot welds instead of screws holding the fan assembly on. No biggie. All you need is one of those rotary spot weld cutters to get it off, then attach the new fan assembly with some sheet metal screws.

http://m.harborfreight.com/3-8-eight...not%20provided

The only other issue is that since these are not Ventline hoods, you'll need to tuck the wiring inside the fan box before securing it to the the underside of the hood. No biggie either.


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Old 06-30-2016, 02:09 PM   #75
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I wondered about airflow, so I sent a query to FOP. The prompt response included information about the fan's power draw (about 1.3 amps on high, half that on low), and the body of a response given to a customer in September 2015 about the airflow question:
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A year ago July I sent SAM-1 to a certified lab for UL 507 9th Edition and CSA C-22.2 #113 certification and specifically requested Performance Testing (SCFM on 12 Vdc and 14.2 Vdc, all 3 speeds) as well. I also requested db ratings (sound levels) at 2' and 6' in addition to light ratings in accordance with RV Industry LED comparison standards.

Two weeks ago I received a 94 page certification report but no Performance Information yet. The lab threatened to send results a week ago but no cigar. My hands are tied until I receive the certified numbers at zero static condition.

I believe SAM-1 is moving 600 SCFM when coaches with good batteries are plugged into shore power or running generator.
Performance at 12 Vdc will be about 15% less then converter voltage.

Hope this info helps, I don't like projecting numbers but labs are ridiculously slow (and I've dealt with these people for the best part of 30 years?).
I guess they're still waiting for lab results.

The Sphere hood mentioned earlier claims
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Air Flow: 100 cubic metres/hour
That's 60 cubic feet per minute.
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Old 06-30-2016, 02:27 PM   #76
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I guess they're still waiting for lab results.
Larry did mention they still don't have the results, but it moves significant air at lower noise levels. I imagine moving that much air through a small outlet will certainly need to increase noise levels at the exterior though. I am actually going to use a flow hood I have available from work and measure the CFM at all three speeds with amp draw both on (14.4 V +/-) and off (12V +/-) shore power. If anyone cares enough to know I will also try to measure sound levels and maybe even light levels before and after since I have the instrumentation available.
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I just love it when someone else does this legwork and testing, and appreciate it too.
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Old 06-30-2016, 04:21 PM   #78
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I am actually going to use a flow hood I have available from work and measure the CFM at all three speeds with amp draw both on (14.4 V +/-) and off (12V +/-) shore power. If anyone cares enough to know I will also try to measure sound levels and maybe even light levels before and after since I have the instrumentation available.
Great
I look forward to seeing the results of whatever you choose to measure.
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Old 07-01-2016, 12:02 AM   #79
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Found the range vent in Rob and Linda's new airstream . It is at Airstream supply . The name is Baraldi stainless steel # 512210. Cost is 311.71 . They also have our vent line 84.00 and another for about 175.00 . Not going to change my range hood . Just giving information for anyone else looking to change theirs . Pat
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Old 07-01-2016, 07:55 PM   #80
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My sentiments exactly! Replacing the dim incandescent bulb with an LED did wonders.
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