Originally Posted by Rossue
Google Toto Escape Forum and you will see the blog. It's also on the forum, however they did a very complete job of documenting what they did.
The filler board gives you more seating on the back seat. We have had ours pinned in place as to not having to remove during travel and have a second one for when making the bunk. Toto's design improves on that as the first filer board is hybrid between board & table. In reviewing specs tonight it seemed the Dicor pedestal may not work. however the other one has the advantage of turning at least 90 degrees.
I did find followtoto.com, thanks. Some good thoughts to throw in with what I have going.
I finally get it now with the filler board, it give you a wide enough seat at the rear, so one could sit there. What I have to wonder, is the need to sit there.
I think with the right adjustable table top, and the Dicor 4-way slide, that there would be no advantage to the top turning, though I have considered adding that too.
Originally Posted by jamman
We have had both - Ushaped in Escape 19 and standard in other trailers. We lounge on the dinettes - front to back and not on the Ubench
If we got another one we would order the standard dinette with the table 6-10" (or so) shorter than the full size table. I would probably add a drop leaf filler board at the front of table with no slider needed - like this: Flip Flop Table Hinge | HardwareSource.com
or this: Drop Leaf Restaurant Tables - Flip Top Tables
For 2 people that gives you a 75-85% size table slid to the front of the trailer so no need to move it (with food and drinks on it.) And the drop leaf to get a full sized table for 4.
Sitting front to back lounging is what I envision, with a cozy oversized throw pillow as a backrest. This way I can be looking out the rear windows for daydreaming, or turn around and look into the trailer for socializing.
Even if I get the standard dinette, I too am considering a table a bit shorter. Adding a filler at the back would make a good holding spot for things wanted handy, but not on the table.
I have both those items bookmarked in my browser, and have considered them. Unless the drop leafs are quite small, they will not work with the Dicor 4-way.
I have also considered using leafs in the table. I had an example found for what I am thinking, but can't find it now. Basically on each side of the table, there would be a roughly 2" section that slides out, allowing me to drop in leafs about 8" each which would bring the table to full size, for more usable space, and to double as a platform for a full bed.
Originally Posted by Greggo
I'm going with the u-shaped dinette with a Springfield pedestal base and a tv on the refrig wall and 2 LED reading lights and flip-up counter extensions, figuring we're going to spend time luxuriating at the "lounge".
I'm also having a spare sat tv cable run and coiled from the dinette tv to the drawer stack where I'm having connections and a power set up for a possible second or maybe relocated tv. If the "lounge" serves us better as a dinette, the tv will move up front and well move our luxuriating up front to the bed (calm down everybody, after 40 years, the most common form of luxuriating there is watching tv!).
For TV, I am considering both locations. Maybe none for now, but maybe roughed in for future use. One would either be sitting side-by-side at the dinette with the TV on the other side of the dinette. This is where a nice coffee table sized table would be great, slide over away from us. Before actually laying in a loft of a 5.0TA I had considered the bed to be a good place to watch some TV too, though with the sloped front of the loft, it is not conducive to sitting up very much, but maybe some kind of support could be made with pillows or something.
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
With the table removed and the insert in place we place our backs against the stooge tables with the big cushions and stretch our legs across the back. This can also sleep one adult or 2 grandkids in this configuration. Alternately we move the cushions to the corners and flip up the stooge tables for snacks or computer use or watching tv mounted on the refer wall. We prefer this setup for its practicality.
I am not sure what you mean by stooge table. I googled it and came up with nothing but some funny skits by the Three Stooges. Are they a similar idea to the fold-up tables? If so, I think I would rather have a small table to use instead. Maybe just because that is what I am used to.
I had not considered a bed not being the full size of the dinette, but for one that is a good consideration.
Originally Posted by padlin
In practice we use the back seat bench to hold stuff when stationary, books, laptop, or whatever craft Deb is into that day. The size of the table and the back bench work great for us this way.
We've tried sitting at the back seat and find it totally unacceptable, I suppose the grandkids could slide in there to eat but that would be about it. The U dinette would not be an option if I were concerned with seating 4.
Using the back bench just as a holding spot sounds like what I forsee as the best use for it too.
I don't see any good reason to actually sit on the back bench. If made wide enough to be useful, it would just take away from the effectiveness of the side benches. No matter which dinette setup one goes for, there really is only room for four adults to fit comfortably. With the U-shape, and sitting at the back it seems to me that you just lose table size, and end up with cramped feet.
This thread is great. It really has lots of considerations flowing through me wee brain. Exactly how the pedestal and table function is something I will set up after taking delivery, but I would like to figure out the configuration of the benches first, as I want that all built, and the cushions made.
I am now wondering even more if that back bench could be made even narrower. I have looked inside one, but don't really remember how much space there was for the battery box, and how much narrower it could be if I used AGM batteries without the box instead.