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Old 02-28-2014, 01:03 AM   #31
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Donna,
Something came to me today, while shoveling ice/snow from around my Escape. If I had a fifth wheel then backing into my yard would be easier and I would also not need as long of a straight line to back since about 5 feet of space is over the tow vehicle. Now I'm thinking, hhmm maybe a Escape 5 TA is the way to go for those with limited access to their yards/parking pads. The over all length os a 5th set up is a lot shorter than the tow behind set up so that equates to easier maneuverability. Something to ponder now.
Holy smokes Jim. Are you thinking of another new trailer?
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Old 02-28-2014, 07:46 AM   #32
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Not really, but I can see some of the benefits of the 5th set up and if my neighbor ever decided to erect a fence or say to me that I can not drive onto their property in order to back my trailer onto mine, THAT there could be an alternative way. I hate to think that I have no options and that could be one.
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:18 AM   #33
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Jim, I think you're correct. Plus a few inches, my 16' Scamp and the new 5er are about the same length (tongue on the Scamp, front-bottom of the loft on the 5er). Those extra 4' are the loft. I don't know about maneuverability... I've never towed or backed up a 5th wheel. I've gotten pretty good with the Scamp. So while it may be a learning curve, i'm curious to find out the difference between the two.
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:37 AM   #34
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You do lose the most of the use of the truck bed on a 5th wheel. But I guess as the trailer grows, the need to use the truck for storage diminishes.

In some states you can tow something behind them too.
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:54 AM   #35
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I think the only way a person gets exactly what they want in a trailer is to buy used and then buy the exact same model only NEW. You know what you would want to change and then can do it... but buying a different model, you're back into almost the same thing as buying a different BRAND. cpaharley has learned.. because he's on his second Escape, but I bet he's even finding things he wished he could have changed during the build...

But what do I know? I'm changing from an oldy, but goody 16' Scamp to an Escape 5er (AND CAN'T WAIT).
There is truth to this Donna. We can easily list the things we want that our Casita had that this 19 doesn't, along with some things Escape offers now that we wish we had.

We saw a Doug's brand new 19 at Quartzsite and it wrecked us. LOL. But no one except CPA HArley can keep up.
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Old 02-28-2014, 10:20 AM   #36
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I don't know about maneuverability... I've never towed or backed up a 5th wheel. I've gotten pretty good with the Scamp. So while it may be a learning curve, i'm curious to find out the difference between the two.
While the principles are the same, there are some differences to reversing a 5th wheel. Once you get used to it though, and to how it reacts, you will find them overall easier to maneuver.
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:44 AM   #37
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We had a pre-owned Casita, which we sold when we purchased the pre-owned 19 we are sitting in.

We have been gone almost a month and it has been working out very well for us. There are a few things we wish were different, but have been able to work around.

It would be nice to take what we have learned and buy a new one just exactly how we want it.

But we also really like this one.
So what are the top two things you wish were different on your 19'? Just out of curiosity.
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So what are the top two things you wish were different on your 19'? Just out of curiosity.
The first two that come to mind are a window in the bathroom and an outdoor shower.

The window is handy for ventilation, and handing through a hose when flushing out the black tank.

We used the outdoor shower on our Casita for washing dishes and pots outside in a tub, less grease and food bits in the gray tank.
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Where are you disposing those food bits and grease if not in the gray tank?
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Both good points. Thanks!
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