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Old 04-06-2014, 10:54 PM   #41
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My station charges by the gallon. An empty 20 pounder takes 4.7 gallons. At least according to my last recipt.
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Old 04-06-2014, 11:10 PM   #42
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According to this guy, you are getting what you should be getting.
He then goes on to describe how Costco rips you off ( I assume from the pictures of Costco receipts, since I didn't read the rest )

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Old 04-06-2014, 11:48 PM   #43
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No gauge on the tank other than what was delivered with the trailer. We had no problems coming home and we were using propane for cooking. When you look at the tank closely, it appears that the leak is actually coming from where the top unit (gage) is attached to the actual tank so we're assuming it's just a defective tank. We have lots of propane tanks around here (outside heaters, barbecue, etc.) and this is the first one to ever leak from someplace other than the thread. I'm just glad it happened while we were here.
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Old 04-06-2014, 11:57 PM   #44
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Gbaglo - In looking at the photo of the OPD valve, our tank is leaking from where the blue tape connects to the tank. In any case, I don't trust the tank and we'll be getting a new one and checking out all connections many times over.
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Old 04-07-2014, 12:23 AM   #45
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You threw me with the use of the term "gauge". I had a look at the pic and I still don't understand where the tank is leaking. I thought you used soapy water on the tank and it didn't show a leak, but that you have a leak when connected.
So, I'm just gonna shup up and suggest you take it to an expert before buying a new tank.
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Old 04-07-2014, 01:02 AM   #46
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Scary! Here in the US it's illegal to fill propane tanks without an overfill protection device installed in the tank. Folks are now complaining about not get a 20# fill in a 20# tank. There's a reason!
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The reason would be that the company offering 18# for [the price of] 20# makes more money.
The 20# tank would not be overfilled until it had more than 20# in it.
Donna, it sounds like you have been duped by the misinformation from the fraud artists at Blue Rhino, like many others. A 20-pound tank fits 20 pounds of propane, when properly and safety filled.

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My station charges by the gallon. An empty 20 pounder takes 4.7 gallons. At least according to my last recipt.
Right - 4.7 gallons at 4.11 pounds per gallon is 19.3 pounds, so they got pretty close.
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Old 04-07-2014, 01:12 AM   #47
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John removed the tank and sprayed it with soapy water ... no bubbles. However, within a few minutes, you could see the vapor escaping (no pun) by looking sideways at the tank where the gauge fits into the actual tank.
These tanks don't have a gauge, or at least not one separate from the valve, so when I read this I wondered if you meant "valve body"...
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No gauge on the tank other than what was delivered with the trailer.
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When you look at the tank closely, it appears that the leak is actually coming from where the top unit (gage) is attached to the actual tank so we're assuming it's just a defective tank.
So apparently, yes, the leak is where the valve body is attached to the tank.

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We have lots of propane tanks around here (outside heaters, barbecue, etc.) and this is the first one to ever leak from someplace other than the thread.
By "the thread" I assume that you meant the threaded connection of the hose fitting to the outlet of the tank's valve. This leaking location of the valve body connection to the tank is also a thread... but one which is never disconnected in the life of the tank. It is a pipe thread, so it has to be sealed with dope or tape.

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... our tank is leaking from where the blue tape connects to the tank. In any case, I don't trust the tank and we'll be getting a new one and checking out all connections many times over.
The valve could just be removed and properly re-installed, but it would need to properly emptied before the work, and purged again afterwards... so it is easier and more practical to just replace the tank.

I've never seen blue thread seal tape, but I have seen blue paste-like sealant (the tape is usually white for water plumbing, and yellow for gas fittings). It doesn't matter which is used, and factory-assembled parts typically use the blue stuff, not tape.

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You threw me with the use of the term "gauge". I had a look at the pic and I still don't understand where the tank is leaking. I thought you used soapy water on the tank and it didn't show a leak, but that you have a leak when connected.
Threw me at first, too.
I assume that only the outlet of valve was checked with soapy water, because a leak at the valve thread into the tank was not expected.
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Old 04-07-2014, 01:14 AM   #48
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Guess who's getting a new tank AND an outside leak detector?
I understand wanting this, but I doubt that an outdoor detector for leaked propane is practical.
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According to this guy, you are getting what you should be getting.
He then goes on to describe how Costco rips you off ( I assume from the pictures of Costco receipts, since I didn't read the rest )

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Yes, he is saying that Costco only put 3.6 US gallons in his 20-pound tank, instead of the 4.7 US gallons that would fill it. Although he saying that Costco gave him only a 3/4 full tank, he also noted that it was so cheap it was still a good deal. Good article, except that he generalizes about Costco based on a single purchase from one location.

Here in Edmonton, the only Costco that sells propane fills tanks by weight (so they don't report the volume), to the full 20-pound capacity (which I have verified with my scale). Despite giving a full tank, they are still usually the cheapest place in town by a significant margin. Certainly no rip-off here!
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Told you I didn't read it.
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