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Old 09-20-2019, 07:20 PM   #1
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Can anyone tell me if the windows on a 5.0TA 5th wheel open completely? Our truck camper windows open about 3" only and that is not good for a fresh air freak. Thanks!
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Old 09-23-2019, 03:58 AM   #2
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Can anyone tell me if the windows on a 5.0TA 5th wheel open completely? Our truck camper windows open about 3" only and that is not good for a fresh air freak. Thanks!


I believe the window choices on the 5.0 are the same as on all the other units ETI sells. You can opt for either framed sliders that create a hole you can stick your head out, or the frameless awning-style windows, which only open a few inches. There are pros and cons to both, and extensive discussions in a ton of threads. Use the search feature and you’ll find every aspect of each window configuration option has been thoroughly debated and dissected.
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Old 09-23-2019, 07:33 AM   #3
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In the 5.0TA there are 10 opening windows allowing for plenty of ventilation, even with the frameless awning windows only opening 3". Never have we opened more than maybe 4 at once. Using the MaxxFan in conjunction with just a few cracked provides great ventilation.

After only having sliders in previous trailers, and now the awning in the 5.0TA, I would never really want to go back as the awning not only do the trick for ventilating, they also operate easier and look nicer too.
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Old 09-23-2019, 11:37 AM   #4
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We Escape owners are a loyal bunch. I mean if you're a frameless awning type fan you can ignore them falling apart and really not providing the ventilation that framed sliders have. Oh, did I mention that I'm a fan of sliders.

I was happy to discover that the window closest to the E21 bed was longer than any others that I had seen. Never noticed it in the showroom. The result is that the unobstructed length of open area is 17", almost twice the usual 9". I'm happy about that.

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Old 09-23-2019, 11:53 AM   #5
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One way to increase the effectiveness of ventilation is to install a 12V fan in the vicinity of a window. I purchased one of the Caframo 12V fans and mounted it in front of a window near our bed. This sucks in fresh air from the open window and directs it over our bed. Really helps when temps are warm for sleeping. The MaxFan is too far away from our bed to give us that nice cool breeze feeling. The Caframo only uses about .3A on low and is very quiet. So we can run it all night and only use about 2-3A total.
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We Escape owners are a loyal bunch. I mean if you're a frameless awning type fan you can ignore them falling apart and really not providing the ventilation that framed sliders have. Oh, did I mention that I'm a fan of sliders.

I was happy to discover that the window closest to the E21 bed was longer than any others that I had seen. Never noticed it in the showroom. The result is that the unobstructed length of open area is 17", almost twice the usual 9". I'm happy about that.

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Same for us liking our sliders for windows . We like function over looks . Do like the acrylic windows . We have played with them on other RV’s . They open up and give a lot of ventilation. Just not sure how they would hold up in time . Think we will just stay with tried and true . Pat
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We Escape owners are a loyal bunch. I mean if you're a frameless awning type fan you can ignore them falling apart and really not providing the ventilation that framed sliders have. Oh, did I mention that I'm a fan of sliders.

I was happy to discover that the window closest to the E21 bed was longer than any others that I had seen. Never noticed it in the showroom. The result is that the unobstructed length of open area is 17", almost twice the usual 9". I'm happy about that.

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Try using that framed window in the rain.....you will not need to shower.
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Did someone mention a window fan...here is ours Modifications to Eggscape
It will satisfy most any fresh air freak.

This link has further info on links to parts and single fan installations. Modifications to Eggscape
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Try using that framed window in the rain.....you will not need to shower.
Jim how many windows do you need to open in the rain ? With our Max fan , bath window and if we want a awning window open the escape window and kitchen window which is open all the time , any window under our awning which no problem having open in the rain because it has support arms . Maybe I just get cold in my old age . Pat
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I meant feeling the air blowing into the window nearest you versus having the bath and fan on elsewhere. In the new style 19 you have 4 windows open on 3 sides and no fan is ever needed with nature outside.
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I meant feeling the air blowing into the window nearest you versus having the bath and fan on elsewhere. In the new style 19 you have 4 windows open on 3 sides and no fan is ever needed with nature outside.
Jim you mentioned , rain . For condensation fan needs to be on ? Air can move up into window ? Pat
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One way to increase the effectiveness of ventilation is to install a 12V fan in the vicinity of a window. I purchased one of the Caframo 12V fans and mounted it in front of a window near our bed. This sucks in fresh air from the open window and directs it over our bed. Really helps when temps are warm for sleeping. The MaxFan is too far away from our bed to give us that nice cool breeze feeling. The Caframo only uses about .3A on low and is very quiet. So we can run it all night and only use about 2-3A total.
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Yes, a small fan gives that nice subtle breeze when it's sweltering hot and you're boondocking.

I use a computer fan, only .13 amps. It hangs on an arm and rocks back and forth, in effect creating an oscillating fan for free.

Jim when it's pouring rain I very rarely feel the need to have my windows open. The roof vents do the job then. It's when it's sweltering hot and you want some cross ventilation that the sliders come into their own.

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Try using that framed window in the rain.....you will not need to shower.
Last month had two nights of heavy rain. I got the awning that allows me to use it even when it's raining so the kitchen slider was open in the rain. I came up with a way to adjust the opening on the emergency egress window so it was opened a couple of inches. I didn't need the bathroom window opened so I didn't. Then cracked open the two windows on each side of the bed. I usually use the MaxFan as an exhaust fan to draw air in through the windows. I like the look of the frameless but I needed that extra money for my two way water heater which I use all the time
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Last month had two nights of heavy rain. I got the awning that allows me to use it even when it's raining so the kitchen slider was open in the rain.
Yes, and the manual awning on Gen 2 allows the kitchen slider to be open because even when retracted it has an overhang enough to act as a mini awning.

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Yes, and the manual awning on Gen 2 allows the kitchen slider to be open because even when retracted it has an overhang enough to act as a mini awning.

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Ron thanks for that info. I had thunderstorms both those nights and it was blowing some. I had to crank the bed area windows down to about an inch or two to keep out the blowing rain. I suspect rain would have also blown in the frameless openings in those conditions. The manual awning did fine in the storms.
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Both manual and power awnings have that overhang for the kitchen window and by the nature of their attachment prevent water from running off the roof onto the trailer sides, which does happen on the street side. I'm curious as to which framed window can be left open on the street side, other than the escape window, in the rain. All of the frameless have black gutters that keep roof water off the windows, the framed windows do not have these gutters.
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Old 09-23-2019, 05:02 PM   #17
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Both manual and power awnings have that overhang for the kitchen window and by the nature of their attachment prevent water from running off the roof onto the trailer sides, which does happen on the street side. I'm curious as to which framed window can be left open on the street side, other than the escape window, in the rain. All of the frameless have black gutters that keep roof water off the windows, the framed windows do not have these gutters.
On my trailer I can open both windows by the bed. I can open in addition to the escape window, the bathroom window. That's three on that side. If the awnings out then two on the door side. The one that I would like to have that I don't is the very back window. It would be nice to be able to open that window.
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Old 09-23-2019, 05:26 PM   #18
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It's nice to have options. Where I live, if the wind isn't blowing the awning is out and the door side windows can be opened in the rain, plus the egress window on the driver side. I have sliders. If the wind is blowing the awning comes in and the windows are closed. At that point it wouldn't matter what kind of windows, wind will blow water in! It's not always about rain, it's often about wind!
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Old 09-23-2019, 10:08 PM   #19
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I'm curious as to which framed window can be left open on the street side, other than the escape window, in the rain.
Jim our loft windows are both awnings so can enjoy air up there even when it's raining. Also although it's a slider in the bathroom who cares if water comes in if it ends up being open in the rain. That leaves only the kitchen and passenger side dinette windows as sliders and with awning open these can be left open in the rain as well.
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re that escape window.... david (with the cats) did a mod that i copied. my son drilled three holes in the arm. one in the red tab and two spaced out pretty much equally along the length. i tied a cotter pin to a colorful thread and the pin can go in any of the holes, giving a lot of options for size of the opening, especially nice if someone is sitting in front of the window. it's great. also solves the problem of bumping the arm and the window shutting.
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