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07-10-2020, 09:58 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Friendswood, Texas
Trailer: 2015 Casita Spirit Deluxe
Posts: 12
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Sway Bar vs Weight Distribution Hitch
We are seriously looking at upgrading from our 17’ Casita to the Escape 19, or possibly the 21. Our current towing setup is a 2016 Honda Pilot AWD with the factory tow package using a sway bar. Most photos I have seen with an Escape have been with the WDH. Is the WDH preferred over a sway bar? Can you tow the 19 using A sway bar?
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07-11-2020, 05:52 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Sway is when the trailer swings behind the tow, caused by too light tongue weight. Also it is more prevalent in single axle models. The E19 should have little sway if loaded properly. The WDH shift some weight off the rear of the tow vehicle to the trailer and front of the tow. If you have squat where your headlights are no longer properly aimed is an example of needing a wdh set up. A tongue scale is your best tool to measure your tongue weight. There have been members here towing E19 with a Pilot but they were the 1stG models, not the newer ones.
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07-11-2020, 10:23 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Trailer: 2018 21
Posts: 252
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I added a swaybar to my F150 to improve the handling all the time. I did make a big difference to the truck.
I do have a WD hitch for the 21.
With this setup I sometimes forget the trailer is back there!
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07-11-2020, 10:52 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: East of Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2021 Escape 5.0 / 2022 F150 SuperCab
Posts: 2,913
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smjayhawk
.... using a sway bar. ....
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Are you referring to a friction device that fits between the vehicle hitch / trailer A-frame to 'deter' trailer-sway?
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Originally Posted by rotorbudd
I added a swaybar to my F150 to improve the handling all the time. ....
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Are you referring to a torsion bar that fits across the (rear and/or front) suspension of the tow vehicle to reduce vehicle body/chassis-roll?
Just seeking to clarify, wanting to avoid a potentially very confused discussion due to two totally unrelated uses of the term [anti-] "sway bar".
FWIW, I fully agree with @cpaharley2008's comments re: proper trailer tongue-weight bias being the best method to avoid trailer-sway and the purpose of a WDH.
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07-11-2020, 11:32 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Trailer: 2018 21
Posts: 252
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Centex
Are you referring to a friction device that fits between the vehicle hitch / trailer A-frame to 'deter' trailer-sway?
Are you referring to a torsion bar that fits across the (rear and/or front) suspension of the tow vehicle to reduce vehicle body/chassis-roll?
Just seeking to clarify, wanting to avoid a potentially very confused discussion due to two totally unrelated uses of the term [anti-] "sway bar".
FWIW, I fully agree with @cpaharley2008's comments re: proper trailer tongue-weight bias being the best method to avoid trailer-sway and the purpose of a WDH.
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It was a rear sway bar to prevent body roll. This and a set of Bilstein shocks completely changed the ride on a new F150. Added Timbren bump stops to help with the sag because I've usually got the bed loaded when going camping. I couldn't be happier with the ride when empty or hauling a trailer with the bed full. It's so good the wife will let me go 5 to 6 hundred mile a day!
My WD hitch is an Anderson so it has a friction damper built into the ball assy.
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07-11-2020, 11:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Cowichan Valley, British Columbia
Trailer: 2020 - 21NE "JoMoE" (Just our Means of Escape)
Posts: 313
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We picked up our 21NE a month ago. We ordered the Fastway e2 WDH/anti-sway hitch along with it, and I was very glad that we did considering the wind/weather on our return home.
Driving from Chilliwack to the ferry, and then home after landing on Vancouver Island, we encountered crosswinds, gusts, and passing semi-trucks with no handling or white knuckle driving being experienced.
Granted, dual axles on the trailer certainly help mitigate 'sway' - but weather and wind conditions can play havoc and introduce sway.
Having researched all of the options available from ETI and others prior to ordering, I chose the Fastway e2 system. The major consideration was the ability to back up with the sway system attached...plus it has proven easy to use and hook up.
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07-11-2020, 11:48 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Yes the tow vehicle sway bar was not the op's question about a single axle Casita needing a w/d set up and one of those bolt on sway apparatus. The combined w/d and sway is a good solution for the Honda Pilot.
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07-11-2020, 12:22 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Madison area, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2016 Escape 19 Chevy 2012 Express 3500 Van
Posts: 1,760
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Check your manual
Some vehicles DO NOT recommend use of a WDH hitch. If you can, use one. If not, look for alternatives such as gas bag lifts at your rear springs, stiffer springs, etc.
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07-11-2020, 01:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HABBERDABBER
Some vehicles DO NOT recommend use of a WDH hitch. If you can, use one. If not, look for alternatives such as gas bag lifts at your rear springs, stiffer springs, etc.
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DO NOT recommend is not the same as DO NOT USE. I pursued this with Toyota and Toyota said "we do not have a relationship with a WDH manufacturer, so we do not recommend any particular WDH".
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07-11-2020, 02:04 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: East of Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2021 Escape 5.0 / 2022 F150 SuperCab
Posts: 2,913
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HABBERDABBER
Some vehicles DO NOT recommend use of a WDH hitch. If you can, use one. .....
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Noting that the OP's 2016 Honda Pilot Owners Manual (PDF page 457) specifically contemplates / allows the use of a properly set-up WDH:
" Your vehicle is designed to tow without the need for a load distributing hitch. If you wish to use one, please consult your trailer maker for proper installation and set-up. Improper set-up could degrade the handling, stability, and braking performance of your vehicle."
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07-16-2020, 09:43 PM
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#11
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Friendswood, Texas
Trailer: 2015 Casita Spirit Deluxe
Posts: 12
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Thanks for the discussion
Thanks all for the input and discussion. From what I gather, the WDH is the smart way to go. I have had good luck using the anti-sway bar with the Casita, but with a longer, heavier trailer the WDH makes sense.
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